On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:38:28 -0700 (PDT), Doug
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wrote:
>There is a discussion on the Carfree Network list about induced
>demand, which is based on a theory that 'congestion is the only true
>limiting factor in unregulated traffic'.
>
>"Amsterdam does not have congestion charging, but it has successfully
>reduced traffic to and in the inner city by implementing three
>measures, preceded by a referendum early nineties. Introduction of
>ever increasing parking rates, approaching ВЂ 5 per hour now; reducing
>the number of parking places; introducing lots of one way streets. The
>results are very good."
>
It's not been sensible to take a car into Omsterdom for well over 20
years it's best left to the tourists, hippies, and junkies.
OTOH Den Haag / Scheveningen is very pleasant and accessible by car.
>"On the other hand, where data for shrinkage is tough to come by,
>evidence for the concept of induced capacity, whereby new roadway
>space attracts more cars, is thoroughly described in journals and
>traffic studies and is far more available."
>
>"As long as people keep packing into the cities, you will have an ever
>increasing problem. Traffic congestion is only one of them.
>
>One thing some engineers here in the US have figured out is that there
>is no possable solution.
While you are at the museum in Leeds (When you've found it) get them
to show you a "Posser".
>It boils down to a simple rule of human
>behavior.If you give some one a space, they will fill it... ie. If you
>add a road or tunnel to relieve congestion, more cars will show up. If
>you cut back on the cars ( high parking fees etc.), then the space
>will be filled with some thing else ( bikes, peddacabs, padestrians
>etc.) If you want any chance of controling the problem, you have to
>work with in this parrameter."
So that's it then get yourself a Prre-payment parrameter.
Derek
