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Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:13
Boris has cancelled plans to introduce a £25 charge for the least efficient
cars , but has also dropped plans to allow low emission cars free entry.
I'm not sure what to make of this. On one hand , this is a *congestion*
charge which doesn't have anything to do with CO2 levels , but on the other
I can see that lots of people who do use the roads who had been encouraged
to buy more efficient cars have actually been stitched up quite badly.
The £25 charge was always totally disproportionate to the "harm" they caused
though
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Author: JNugentJNugent Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:24
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> Boris has cancelled plans to introduce a £25 charge for the least
> efficient cars , but has also dropped plans to allow low emission cars
> free entry.
> I'm not sure what to make of this. On one hand , this is a *congestion*
> charge which doesn't have anything to do with CO2 levels , but on the
> other I can see that lots of people who do use the roads who had been
> encouraged to buy more efficient cars have actually been stitched up
> quite badly.
> The £25 charge was always totally disproportionate to the "harm" they
> caused though
Reports indicate that Boris might scrap the westward extension of the
"congestion" zone and might also limit the hours of operation so that
people can still visit the central area for lunch, shopping or the
theatre without being ripped off.
Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed and
the whole scheme will be scrapped.
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Author: MartinMartin Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:22
>>Boris has cancelled plans to introduce a
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:38
JNugent NPPTG.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
> company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed and
> the whole scheme will be scrapped.
Crapita are being replaced by IBM as of next November - that was all a
signed & sealed deal under Ken, last October.
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Author: peter.thomas8899peter.thomas8899 Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:44
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:13:36 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>Boris has cancelled plans to introduce a £25 charge for the least efficient
>cars , but has also dropped plans to allow low emission cars free entry.
>
>I'm not sure what to make of this. On one hand , this is a *congestion*
>charge which doesn't have anything to do with CO2 levels , but on the other
>I can see that lots of people who do use the roads who had been encouraged
>to buy more efficient cars have actually been stitched up quite badly.
>
>The £25 charge was always totally disproportionate to the "harm" they caused
>though
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Author: ®i©ardo®i©ardo Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:47
Adrian wrote:
> JNugent NPPTG.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
> >> Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
>> company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed and
>> the whole scheme will be scrapped.
>
> Crapita are being replaced by IBM as of next November - that was all a
> signed & sealed deal under Ken, last October.
Hmm, I wonder how much their CEO donated to the Labour party?
--
Moving things in still pictures!
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:50
®i©ardo nowhere.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
>>> Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
>>> company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed
>>> and the whole scheme will be scrapped.
>> Crapita are being replaced by IBM as of next November - that was all a
>> signed & sealed deal under Ken, last October.
> Hmm, I wonder how much their CEO donated to the Labour party?
I'd be surprised if it wasn't a fair deal, given the amount of scrutiny
it inevitably got at the time, and would certainly get if things didn't
massively improve (which wouldn't have been hard...)
Crapita's fixed-term contract was up, they were shit, another bidder won.
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Author: Dave PlowmanDave Plowman Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:49
In article pipex.net>,
JNugent NPPTG.com> wrote:>> The £25 charge was always totally disproportionate to the "harm" they
>> caused though
> Reports indicate that Boris might scrap the westward extension of the
> "congestion" zone and might also limit the hours of operation so that
> people can still visit the central area for lunch, shopping or the
> theatre without being ripped off.
But will still be ripped off by parking charges - which in the congestion
zone are likely to exceed the CC anyway. Have you never parked there? It
costs a fortune. And only an idiot would attempt to find somewhere to park
for the theatre in the daytime anyway.
> Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
> company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed and
> the whole scheme will be scrapped.
And give up the income? Don't be silly. *All* politicians want our money
to spend. Boris wants to scrap bendy buses and replace them - long before
they are worn out. Just where do you think the money will come from?
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 8, 2008 02:04
Dave Plowman davesound.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:
>> Reports indicate that Boris might scrap the westward extension of the
>> "congestion" zone and might also limit the hours of operation so that
>> people can still visit the central area for lunch, shopping or the
>> theatre without being ripped off.
> But will still be ripped off by parking charges - which in the
> congestion zone are likely to exceed the CC anyway. Have you never
> parked there? It costs a fortune. And only an idiot would attempt to
> find somewhere to park for the theatre in the daytime anyway.
Well, quite. Not to mention how bloody long it takes to get anywhere -
it's far quicker and easier to get public transport.
>> Longer term, one hopes that when the contracts with the jackals, er...
>> company that operates the scheme has expired, it will not be renewed
>> and the whole scheme will be scrapped.
> And give up the income? Don't be silly. *All* politicians want our money
> to spend. Boris wants to scrap bendy buses and replace them - long
> before they are worn out. Just where do you think the money will come
> from?
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Author: Clive SinclairClive Sinclair Date: Jul 8, 2008 02:11
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> Boris has cancelled plans to introduce a £25 charge for the least
> efficient cars , but has also dropped plans to allow low emission cars
> free entry.
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this. On one hand , this is a *congestion*
> charge which doesn't have anything to do with CO2 levels , but on the
> other I can see that lots of people who do use the roads who had been
> encouraged to buy more efficient cars have actually been stitched up
> quite badly.
>
> The £25 charge was always totally disproportionate to the "harm" they
> caused though
>
I totally agree with you on the 'Congestion' part. It should have always
been called a 'Pollution' charge.
--
Clive
We don't die, we just stop paying taxes.
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