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Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: Alang
Date: Aug 11, 2008 12:16

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:03:05 +0100, "Ted Percy" local.com>
wrote:
>
>"Alang" invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:38:39 +0100, "Ted Percy" local.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"mert1639" herald.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:g7n7jo$igb$1@frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk...
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>>>> "Bazzer Smith" invalid.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "mert1639" herald.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g7n790$if6$1@frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk...
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>>>>>> "Bazzer Smith" invalid.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> "mert1639" herald.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> "Bazzer Smith" invalid.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>> With 5 million unemployed and sky high oil prices
>>>>>>>>> why don't we open up all the pits Thatcher closed down
>>>>>>>>> in her class war and kill two birds with one stone?
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be at all supprised if this happened in my life time.
>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>> a poor international security situation and lack of interest in
>>>>>>>> green
>>>>>>>> power sources I can see a future for coal. I'm not sure, however,
>>>>>>>> that we'd get many miners in the UK now though. We may well have to
>>>>>>>> import them from abroad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why we used to have plenty of them who fought to kept their
>>>>>>> jobs. DO you thinkn they suddenly don't want to work because
>>>>>>> they are dole scum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but they have got nice cushy jobs in 'retail' and 'telesales' and
>>>>>> aren't very likley to want to crawl arround underground getting
>>>>>> filthy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tele sales don't pay £50,000 PA.
>>>> Since when have miners earned that much?
>>>>
>>>Scargill would have had them on that by now:-) He was on TV News the other
>>>wanting mines opened up. . They were always the best paid British workers
>>>and even during the war were prepared to strike as did many other
>>>industries. As this article states Miners were getting £5 a day when the
>>>average industrial wage was £6.50 a week.
>>
>> Bullshit!
>> I packed my job in after the 1972 strike because I went back to a wage
>> of £23 a week. £4 a week more than was paid in dole. I got a job in a
>> clean factory with no shiftwork for £35 a week
>>
>>
>> fuckwits!
>The article came from Labour Sources:
>Sources: Socialist Review Nov. 1986 (Ian Birchall) and April 1995 (Tony
>Dabb), The People's War (Angus Calder), Civil Liberties in Britain During
>the 2nd World War (Neil Stammers), Lifelong Apprenticeship (Bill Hunter),
>Engineers At War (R. Croucher).
>
>
> not from the Daily Mail or Telegraph so why would they lie?
>Ted.
>
I have no idea.
They were certainly not the best paid workers. Some on piece work may
have earned a lot prior to nationalisation but not after. They weren't
getting as much as car workers in coventry,

I was a maintenance mechanic in 1972. I got £23 week. For that I hung
in a 2000 ft shaft on the end of a harness or worked up to my neck in
filthy water. One night I worked 40 feet up on a scaffold tower in a
blizzard in the dark splicing a cable so we could get power back on.
After the strike I handed in my notice and got a job at almost double
the wages in a factory. In between times for a couple of months my
wife claimed benefits of £19 a week for her and the kids. No contest.

The stupidest thing I ever did was get a job in a mine. It killed my
grandfather and crippled my father. My brother and cousin both died in
their 50s. Nobody working in mining got their money easy
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