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Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: Mortimer
Date: Aug 2, 2008 08:33

"Derek Geldard" miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mhr894pimvitaufbauf2lv2qr0qm98kv45@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:14:39 +0100, "Mortimer" privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>"John Wright" pegasus.f2s.com> wrote in message
>>news:vYCdnaXYJsOM9AnVnZ2dnUVZ8t_inZ2d@pipex.net...
>
>> We don't want a repeat
>>of the fiasco with deep freezes which have non-CFC refrigerant and
>>therefore
>>have to be kept in a room with a minimum temperture of 10 deg C - which
>>immediately wipes out the ability to keep a freezer in a garage or shed
>>:-(When my parents were looking to replace their freezer when it finally
>>broke down after about 25 years' service, the salesman actually
>>recommended
>>putting a greenhouse heater in the garage to keep the temperature above 10
>>on cold winter nights...)
>>
>
> Are you sure it wasn't a double door fridge freezer with a single
> compressor which doesn't run once the cooling requirement in the
> fridge section is satisfied, e.g. if the environment goes below about
> 8c ? We had one of those once and all the frozen food spoiled when we
> went away over Christmas temp Ca. 3C.

That sounds a REALLY crap design. What a naive assumption for them to make -
that if the ambient temperature is sufficiently cold for one section, the
other section will no longer need to be cooled.
> Anyway, With respect I don't think it's right to blame non-CFC
> refrigerants.
>
> We now have a single European market that stretches from Cyprus to
> Sicily and Portugal in the south to as far north as Aberdeen,
> Peterhead and Wick on the UK mainland. It's not possible to make a
> single refrigerant/compressor system that works over such a wide
> temperature range so manufacturers make different models of their
> fridges suitable for several different temperature zones.
>
> For various reasons these different models have different prices, but
> if you go to a domestic appliance shed they just source and sell the
> cheapest one which, maybe because of demand / market size, tends to be
> suitable for Italy or Spain where they come from rather than say
> Penrith.

Hmmm. That almost sounds plausible. I'm not sure where they looked for
freezers, but I *think* they may have got it from John Lewis, who probably
tend to buy more expensive appliances (suitable for the UK) rather than the
cheapest tha they can lay their hands on.

Mind you, my girlfriend is looking for a freezer at the moment and she has
found the same >10 deg C restriction for all the ones that she's
investigated on the web.

In both cases (parents and girlfriend) it's a single freezer, not a
fridge/freezer.
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