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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 27, 2008 00:30
Yes, although unaccountable policing in the UK is nothing new it is
spreading.
"Local government officials and private security workers have been
given police powers to enforce on-the-spot fines for littering, dog
fouling and motoring offences.
Despite lacking formal police training, hundreds of civilians have
been made part of the "extended police family" by the Home Office
under little-known legislation.
They have not been asked to wear any special uniforms to identify
themselves, but must wear only a badge that can be as small as 73mm x
80mm.
The disclosure that hundreds of civilians have been given enforcement
powers drew accusations that the Government is encouraging the spread
of unaccountable policing..."
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2628415/Civilians-given-power-to-issue-on...
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Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Aug 27, 2008 01:29
On Aug 27, 8:30 am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> "Local government officials and private security workers have been
> given police powers to enforce on-the-spot fines for littering, dog
> fouling and motoring offences.
>
Yeah , I can see that working. Not. If someone refuses to give their
address what exactly are these people going to do about it? If they
can't detain people (hopefully doing a citizens arrest for dropping
litter doesn't become commonplace) the person can just give them the
finger and walk off and theres b*gger all they can do about it. Looks
like just another stupid scheme by stupid politicians who don't want
to cough up for the real police.
B2003
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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 27, 2008 01:37
On 27 Aug, 09:29, Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 8:30 am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> "Local government officials and private security workers have been
>> given police powers to enforce on-the-spot fines for littering, dog
>> fouling and motoring offences.
>
> Yeah , I can see that working. Not. If someone refuses to give their
> address what exactly are these people going to do about it? If they
> can't detain people (hopefully doing a citizens arrest for dropping
> litter doesn't become commonplace) the person can just give them the
> finger and walk off and theres b*gger all they can do about it. Looks
> like just another stupid scheme by stupid politicians who don't want
> to cough up for the real police.
>
You obviously have no experience of security guards...
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Aug 27, 2008 01:45
Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> Yes, although unaccountable policing in the UK is nothing new it is
> spreading.
>
> "Local government officials and private security workers have been given
> police powers to enforce on-the-spot fines for ... motoring offences.
Isn't that exactly what you've been clamouring for for years?
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Author: FodFod Date: Aug 27, 2008 01:57
On Aug 27, 8:30Â am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> Yes, although unaccountable policing in the UK is nothing new it is
> spreading.
> The disclosure that hundreds of civilians have been given enforcement
> powers drew accusations that the Government is encouraging the spread
> of unaccountable policing..."
I wonder how long before they target the cyclists in city centers who
break the law. Thats a cash cow waiting to be milked.
And it would do something useful as well.
Fod
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Aug 27, 2008 02:26
Doug wrote:
> On 27 Aug, 09:29, Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 8:30 am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Local government officials and private security workers have been
>>> given police powers to enforce on-the-spot fines for littering, dog
>>> fouling and motoring offences.
>>
>> Yeah , I can see that working. Not. If someone refuses to give their
>> address what exactly are these people going to do about it? If they
>> can't detain people (hopefully doing a citizens arrest for dropping
>> litter doesn't become commonplace) the person can just give them the
>> finger and walk off and theres b*gger all they can do about it. Looks
>> like just another stupid scheme by stupid politicians who don't want
>> to cough up for the real police.
>>
> You obviously have no experience of security guards who can be very
> intimidating and all they have to do is radio the cops who will bang
> you up for refusing to give your name and address, plus a few other
> trumped up charges. ...
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Author: JNugentJNugent Date: Aug 27, 2008 04:58
Doug wrote:
> Yes, although unaccountable policing in the UK is nothing new it is
> spreading.
Traffic wardens are civilians. They've been around, handing out
on-the-spot fines, for nearly fifty years.
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Date: Aug 27, 2008 05:20
Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> They have not been asked to wear any special uniforms to identify
> themselves, but must wear only a badge that can be as small as 73mm x
> 80mm.
So when are you getting your badge? It's your wet-dream come true isn't
it?
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Author: NotMeNotMe Date: Aug 27, 2008 05:38
On 27 Aug, 13:20, %%ste...@ malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>> They have not been asked to wear any special uniforms to identify
>> themselves, but must wear only a badge that can be as small as 73mm x
>> 80mm.
>
> So when are you getting your badge? It's your wet-dream come true isn't
> it?
So far today Doug Bollen has fined Doug Bollen:
5 times for cycling on a footpath,
2 times for possession of class 4 fireworks (although Doug claims
these are being used for a peaceful purpose).
8 times for causing harassment, alarm or distress.
Doug Bollen has also attempted to remove 200 "abandoned" vehicles.
However Doug Bollen refused to supply Doug Bollen with his name and
address claiming "I'm not Doug Bollen".
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Aug 27, 2008 05:52
JNugent wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>
>> Yes, although unaccountable policing in the UK is nothing new it is
>> spreading.
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>
>
> Traffic wardens are civilians. They've been around, handing out
> on-the-spot fines, for nearly fifty years.
Exactly, and if you've done nothing wromg then you've nothing to worry
about.
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