On Mar 6, 4:59 pm, Doug
riseup.net> wrote:> On 6 Mar, 12:07, Fod
googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 6, 6:26 am, Doug
riseup.net> wrote:>
>>> On 6 Mar, 06:18, My Name wrote:
>
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> Could anyone please tell me why there is not charity organisations
>>>> being setup selling BioFuels?
>
>>>> #1 As it being a charity this would stop the high taxes being sold
>>>> on the fuel as it is not profit making (yet for non commercial usage).
>
>>>> #2 Would allow commercial users of oils (e.g. Resturants etc) to be able
>>>> to donate their used oil FREE instead of heavy costs of waste removal
>>>> companies having to deal with it.
>
>>>> #3 This would allow a non commercial vehicle user to be able to purchase
>>>> a litre of biodiesel for around 5 to 10 pence per litre.
>
>>>> Many Thanks.
>
>>> Simply because biofuels are just more greenwash, as an empty promise
>>> for the future, used to try to vindicate the present wasteful
>>> consumption of non-renewables and no self-respecting charity would
>>> have anything to do with them.
>
>> Nice of you to gloss over the various types with a sweeping and
>> misleading statement. Charities exist to do good, they don't just
>> exist to further Dougs anti car agenda.
>
> So you admit some are anti-car?
Brake springs to mind...
> But biofuel promotion is not doing good
Depends on the type of biofuel thats being promoted. As normally you
resort to making the issue black and white. ( didn't you say
something about how people shouldn't do that yesterday? Or is this
the other Doug thats posting from your account today? The one with
completely contrary views...)
> , its just dragging out the
> inevitable. At some point people will just have to learn to travel/
> consume less and adapt.
While you claim this a lot you've never came close to proving it.
>> The biofuels obtained via waste fat/oil are a good idea and stop
>> things going to landfill or down the drain. ( both bad for the
>> environment so its a dual win for biofuels). Its not going to be a
>> huge industry but definately one that should be encouraged.
>
> Sorry, there is not nearly enough to go around.
Whats that got to do with the fact that a small industry would be
reducing harmful things going to landfill?
Never recycled?
>> Biofuels from algae are a long way off and will never produce enough
>> fuel to replace the current levels of oil use. However they could be
>> used to combat decreasing production in the future as a stop gap for
>> the next gen technologies that are yet to appear.
>
> The best stop gap would be immediate fuel rationing.
Can we start with the soya you drag halfway around the world to
support you "natural" diet?
> Aren't we
> supposed to be at war just now?
Not last time I checked....
> Always a good excuse for rationing.
And censorship... be careful what you wish for.
>> Biofuels from crops, while having potential a few years back, are now
>> causing harm due to the last two years of bad harvests causing food
>> scarcity across the board. That should be enough to stop the limited
>> schemes that are in operation from being expanded, if not halted. At
>> least until world food problems ease.
>
> Well this doesn't seem to deter present EU biofuel subsidies and oil
> companies who still stick ethanol in their petrol.
And, I'm agreeing with you that this is a bad thing? Oh, I forgot it
upsets you when someone agrees with you. Its destroys your citizen
smith style revolution leader image if you have supporters...
Fod
