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Author: DougDoug Date: Jun 14, 2008 23:46
This is why.
"The Problem
The industrialized nations made a terrible mistake when they turned to
the automobile as an instrument of improved urban mobility. The car
brought with it major unanticipated consequences for urban life and
has become a serious cause of environmental, social, and aesthetic
problems in cities. The urban automobile:
* Kills street life
* Damages the social fabric of communities
* Isolates people
* Fosters suburban sprawl
* Endangers other street users
* Blots the city's beauty
* Disturbs people with its noise
* Causes air pollution
* Slaughters thousands every year
* Exacerbates global warming
* Wastes energy and natural resources
* Impoverishes nations
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Author: NMNM Date: Jun 15, 2008 00:13
On 15 Jun, 07:46, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> This is why.
>
> "The Problem
>
> The industrialized nations made a terrible mistake when they turned to
> the automobile as an instrument of improved urban mobility. The car
> brought with it major unanticipated consequences for urban life and
> has become a serious cause of environmental, social, and aesthetic
> problems in cities. The urban automobile:
>
> * Kills street life
> * Damages the social fabric of communities
> * Isolates people
> * Fosters suburban sprawl
> * Endangers other street users
> * Blots the city's beauty
> * Disturbs people with its noise
> * Causes air pollution
> * Slaughters thousands every year ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jun 15, 2008 00:30
Doug wrote:
> This is why.
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So, yet another car thread from Doug the Liar (who may or may not be Bollen
but on a balance of probabilities, is).
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Jun 15, 2008 01:03
Doug wrote:
> This is why.
>
> "The Problem
>
> The industrialized nations made a terrible mistake when they turned to
> the automobile as an instrument of improved urban mobility. The car
> brought with it major unanticipated consequences for urban life and
> has become a serious cause of environmental, social, and aesthetic
> problems in cities. The urban automobile:
>
> * Kills street life
> * Damages the social fabric of communities
> * Isolates people
> * Fosters suburban sprawl
> * Endangers other street users
> * Blots the city's beauty
> * Disturbs people with its noise
> * Causes air pollution
> * Slaughters thousands every year ...
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Author: FodFod Date: Jun 15, 2008 01:30
On Jun 15, 7:46 am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> This is why.
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> "The Problem
>
> The industrialized nations made a terrible mistake when they turned to
> the automobile as an instrument of improved urban mobility. The car
> brought with it major unanticipated consequences for urban life and
> has become a serious cause of environmental, social, and aesthetic
> problems in cities. The urban automobile:
>
> * Kills street life
> * Damages the social fabric of communities
> * Isolates people
> * Fosters suburban sprawl
> * Endangers other street users
> * Blots the city's beauty
> * Disturbs people with its noise
> * Causes air pollution
> * Slaughters thousands every year ...
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Author: ConorConor Date: Jun 15, 2008 03:22
> The challenge is to remove cars and trucks from cities while at the
> same time improving mobility and reducing its total costs..."
>
I'd like to see you get rid of trucks.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Date: Jun 15, 2008 04:13
> This is why.
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> "The Problem
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> The industrialized nations made a terrible mistake when they turned to
> the automobile as an instrument of improved urban mobility. The car
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 15, 2008 04:20
"Conor" hotmail.com> wrote
> I'd like to see you get rid of trucks.
>
It just serves, yet again, to flag up his stupidity, and the clueless nature
of the agenda he persues.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jun 15, 2008 04:32
Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Conor" hotmail.com> wrote
>>> I'd like to see you get rid of trucks.
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> It just serves, yet again, to flag up his stupidity, and the clueless
> nature of the agenda he persues.
I think we may be getting confused about his agenda.
Rather than promoting environmentally friendly policies, I suspect his
agenda is simply to be against everything, includung himself.
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Author: vancomycin11vancomycin11 Date: Jun 15, 2008 08:02
Big deal. Places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo and Amsterdam are
already *practically* car free cities. There is nothing revolutionary
about the concept. Making a city 100%% car free is nearly impossible.
There are a small number of uses for which a car or lorry is
mandatory. The only reason that Venice can get away with no cars is
that it has a canal system to transport goods, but the boats are more
polluting than cars! The only way to make a 100%% car-free city
feasible would be to build an underground conveyor belt system that
has a node at every street corner. Far too expensive at present.
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