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Author: MeMe Date: Apr 27, 2008 05:56
I was trying to post an account of my trials and tribulations trying to
buy some rail tickets online yesterday. But maybe the post is too long
and it won't go through.
It was Arriva Trains Wales. Their online system *requires* you to open
an account before you can buy tickets. No, I just want the fucking
tickets. By the time I had pissed about with the online system and had
completely un-intelligeable conversations with an Indian call centre,
the £10 tickets had gone and I had to pay an extra £6.
Oh, and when I complained the response came from, yes you've guessed it.
India.
So much for Arriva Trains *WALES*.
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Date: Apr 27, 2008 06:05
"Me" tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.227e8871c0aa4e7698968a@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> It was Arriva Trains Wales. Their online system *requires* you to open
> an account before you can buy tickets. No, I just want the fucking
> tickets. By the time I had pissed about with the online system and had
> completely un-intelligeable conversations with an Indian call centre,
> the
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Author: MeMe Date: Apr 27, 2008 06:30
> Yep, try doing it for a dozen people and the price changes are just stupid,
> still going to the same event this year as last train fairs have gone up by
> 240%% booked in advance, unsurprisingly we are going by road this year.
Oooo that sounds nasty. Couple of years ago we planned a walking holiday
in Scotland. Planned everything, including the rail fares which were £80
for 3 of us. Train - walk - train, nice and environmentaly friendly.
Unfortunately one of us couldn't firm up the dates until about a month
before we went. When I went to book the tickets, surprise surprise its
now £250. So we drove. Much much cheaper.
Until we sort out this mess there will never be a move from roads to the
train. It even costs less to move a locomotive by road than it does by
rail. And they say the loonies are not running the asylum.
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Author: Mark GoodgeMark Goodge Date: Apr 27, 2008 06:35
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:56:59 +0100, Me put finger to keyboard and
typed:
>I was trying to post an account of my trials and tribulations trying to
>buy some rail tickets online yesterday. But maybe the post is too long
>and it won't go through.
>
>It was Arriva Trains Wales. Their online system *requires* you to open
>an account before you can buy tickets. No, I just want the fucking
>tickets. By the time I had pissed about with the online system and had
>completely un-intelligeable conversations with an Indian call centre,
>the £10 tickets had gone and I had to pay an extra £6.
One thing worth knowing in this context is that all online ticket
vendors are required to sell tickets for all operators. This doesn't
just apply to the independent sellers such as The Trainline and
Raileasy but also the operators themselves. So, even if you want to
travel on Arriva Trains Wales, you don't have to use their website to
buy the tickets - you can use any other operator's site to do so. And
not all of them require registration in order to purchase.
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Author: MeMe Date: Apr 27, 2008 06:48
> One thing worth knowing in this context is that all online ticket
> vendors are required to sell tickets for all operators. This doesn't
> just apply to the independent sellers such as The Trainline and
> Raileasy but also the operators themselves. So, even if you want to
> travel on Arriva Trains Wales, you don't have to use their website to
> buy the tickets - you can use any other operator's site to do so. And
> not all of them require registration in order to purchase.
>
> Mark
Thats interesting. I was sure nationalrail.com *used* to sell tickets,
but apparently not now. One thing that really pisses me off is having to
open "an account". More like opening a "we want to send you advertising
shit" account. I just want the tickets! If I go to the ticket office
they don't ask me to open an account, or fill in a questionaire, or
anything. "Chesterfield to Dover, that'll be £50 please"
notes> "Thankyou, have a nice trip". Simple really isn't it.
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Author: David HansenDavid Hansen Date: Apr 27, 2008 07:05
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:48:28 +0100 someone who may be Me
tiscali.co.uk> wrote this:-
>One thing that really pisses me off is having to
>open "an account". More like opening a "we want to send you advertising
>shit" account.
I'm sure that Mr Donald Duck, disney.com> and any other
details one cares to supply, is delighted to receive advertising
shit from any number of companies. He also has colleagues like Dr
Minnie Mouse and Mr B Bunny.
There is the question of giving them a real postal address to send
the tickets to, but there are ways around that.
>I just want the tickets! If I go to the ticket office
>they don't ask me to open an account, or fill in a questionaire, or
>anything. "Chesterfield to Dover, that'll be £50 please"
>notes> "Thankyou, have a nice trip". Simple really isn't it.
Other than the longer season tickets. There are also "cheap ticket"
scams involving things like newspaper coupons, where the real
objective appears to be to gather personal information in order to
send advertising shit to the punter.
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Author: petertpetert Date: Apr 27, 2008 08:03
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:35:07 +0100, Mark Goodge
listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:56:59 +0100, Me put finger to keyboard and
>typed:
>
>>I was trying to post an account of my trials and tribulations trying to
>>buy some rail tickets online yesterday. But maybe...
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Author: Mark GoodgeMark Goodge Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:01
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:48:28 +0100, Me put finger to keyboard and
typed:
>> One thing worth knowing in this context is that all online ticket
>> vendors are required...
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Author: MeMe Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:05
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:48:28 +0100, Me put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
> It's not quite that simple at the ticket office - you still have to
> decide what ticket you want (if it isn't for immediate travel), and
> that can involve quite a detailed conversation with the ticket clerk
> if the answer isn't immediately obvious. It's just that this is
> something where a conversation with a human is often quicker than
> doing it with a machine, as humans use intuition to avoid the
> obviously wrong answers before drilling down into the details.
>
> The real issue with online purchase, though, is that you have to pay
> by card, which involves an element of complexity that's absent from a
> cash-over-the-counter purchase, and you also have to arrange a way of
> getting the tickets to the purchaser. The best online sales system use
> a logical and intuitive order for this: Make selection, enter
> contact/delivery details, make payment. Requiring registration not
> only reverses the order of the first two (which is wrong as it risks ...
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Author: Mark GoodgeMark Goodge Date: Apr 27, 2008 09:09
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:05:53 +0100, David Hansen put finger to
keyboard and typed:
>On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:48:28 +0100 someone who may be Me
>tiscali.co.uk> wrote this:-
>
>>One thing that really pisses me off is having to
>>open "an account". More like opening a "we want to send you advertising
>>shit" account.
>
>I'm sure that Mr Donald Duck, disney.com> and any other
>details one cares to supply, is delighted to receive advertising
>shit from any number of companies. He also has colleagues like Dr
>Minnie Mouse and Mr B Bunny.
>
>There is the question of giving them a real postal address to send
>the tickets to, but there are ways around that.
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