>On Jun 9, 12:09 am, abelard abelard.org> wrote:

>> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 23:44:06 +0100, "Gaz" msn.com> wrote:

>>>abelard wrote:

>>>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:20:45 +1200, "Roger Dewhurst"
>>>> wave.co.nz> wrote:

>>

>>>> Evolution

>>

>>>> Phillips argues that evolution is "merely a theory." She writes that
>>>> it "does not explain the irreduceable complexity of certain cells for
>>>> example, which cannot have been formed by simple organisms coming
>>>> together".[13] She claims that it "does not explain human
>>>> self-consciousness; it does not explain altruism; it does not explain
>>>> how existence began."[14] She has also defended the teaching of
>>>> creationism in schools.[14]

>>

>>>Evolution doesnt, and never has explained self conciousness or how existance
>>>began. And why wouldnt creationism be taught in schools? I remember quite
>>>clearly being told about genesis, and the garden of eden while at school.

>>
>> expect me to argue? doesn't make evolution 'merely
>> a theory'
>>

>>>> MMR vaccine

>>

>>>> Despite a scientific consensus is that there is no link between the
>>>> MMR vaccine and autism,[15] Phillips has repeatedly questioned the
>>>> safety of the vaccine,[16][17][18][19] insisting that "urgent
>>>> questions about the vaccine's safety remain unanswered."[20] Science
>>>> writer Ben Goldacre has called Phillips "the MMR sceptic who just
>>>> doesn't understand science".[21]

>>

>>>The Government didnt help the cause of MMR, they acted disgracefully on a
>>>number of levels which destroyed the confidence of the MMR. I am always
>>>worried by such scientific consensus....

>>
>> argue with figures...not with your vague anxieties
>>

>>>> Global warming

>>

>>>> Phillips has said of global warming that the current "warm spell is
>>>> well within the normal cyclical fluctuations in temperature from
>>>> century to century",[22] that blaming "warming on mankind's activities
>>>> in producing carbon dioxide" is "utter garbage",[23] and that global
>>>> warming alarmism is like a "witch-hunt"[24] and is "one of the
>>>> greatest scientific scams of the modern age".[25] George Monbiot has
>>>> accused her of "scientific illiteracy" and says she is aligned with a
>>>> "denial industry" funded by oil and tobacco companies.[26]
>>>> hark unto the moonbats tendency...

>>

>>>Well, it certainly is a witch hunt and it certainly become a means for
>>>groups to carry out their agenda. The last comment though, is a cliche well
>>>beyond you.

>>
>> which cliche? monbiot has a science training....
>> of course idiots will use anything to forward their agenda...
>> that says nothing to the facts..
>>

>>>If you read michael crichtons book on environmentalists, mainframe/wireframe
>>>or something like that, i cant recall off hand, he does tear apart the
>>>strategies of environmentalists and their scare tactics.

>>
>> so what?
>> again, it says not one thing about the facts....

>http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref...
>Useful web site from New Scientist that answers and refutes the
>objections by the Contrarians (originally thought up by Exxon's PR
>companies).