Brimstone wrote:
> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> Tony Dragon wrote:
>>>> Conor wrote:
>>>>> In article
bt.com>, Tony Dragon
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>> Noticed that you did not comment on the actions of the truck
>>>>>> driver.
>>>>> If he's in the wrong, he's in the wrong. The situation still
>>>>> occured. It doesn't abdicate the car driver from what they should
>>>>> be doing and because drivers don't anticipate and plan ahead,
>>>>> people like me end up sat on the motorway for hours in static
>>>>> traffic waiting whilst the emergency services deal with the
>>>>> consequences.
>>>> I'm not arguing with you, all should be anticipating & planning
>>>> ahead. But to put the balance right, these two events occurred this
>>>> morning on my way to Dartford.
>>>> Driving anti-clockwise on the M25, car driver decided at last minute
>>>> to join M23 from L3 of M25, he might have given a signal but I did
>>>> not notice as I had decided his driving looked dodgey & kept out of
>>>> the way. A bit further on at Godstone where the M25 goes from 4
>>>> lanes to 3, truck driver in L1 who had plenty of time to move into
>>>> L2 decided he wanted to stay on the M25 at the last minute, he
>>>> pulled into L2(which is now L1) by going over the cross-hatched
>>>> part of the slip road. Both in the wrong, both dangerous, or would
>>>> you disagree?
>>> In principle, yes.
>>>
>>>
>> Why would you disagree?
>
> If there were no other vehicles likely to be inconvenienced.
It would still be bad driving, and any driver making these maneuvers
would be doing so because he did not think ahead, if he could not do
that, then how could he be sure that nobody else was around?
>
>> Do you think that the actions of the drivers were correct, or do you
>> think that the incidents were not dangerous, or both?
>
> They were both incorrect. The level of danger depends on the circumstances
> (i.e. other vehicles in the vicinity) prevailing at the time.
Agreed, but I think you can guess the level of the traffic on the M25 at
10 in the morning.
>
> Neither are examples of good driving, and should on the whole, be deplored.
Agreed
>
> But, how many of those of us who have been driving for many years and have
> covered considerable mileages can honestly say that we've not done something
> similar at least once?
I hope that I could say that I have not done these things, but...
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