> Brimstone wrote:

>> Tony Dragon wrote:

>>> Conor wrote:

>>>> In article bt.com>, Tony Dragon
>>>> says...
>>>>

>>>>> Noticed that you did not comment on the actions of the truck
>>>>> driver.

>>>> If he's in the wrong, he's in the wrong. The situation still
>>>> occured. It doesn't abdicate the car driver from what they should
>>>> be doing and because drivers don't anticipate and plan ahead,
>>>> people like me end up sat on the motorway for hours in static
>>>> traffic waiting whilst the emergency services deal with the
>>>> consequences.

>>> I'm not arguing with you, all should be anticipating & planning
>>> ahead. But to put the balance right, these two events occurred this
>>> morning on my way to Dartford.
>>> Driving anti-clockwise on the M25, car driver decided at last minute
>>> to join M23 from L3 of M25, he might have given a signal but I did
>>> not notice as I had decided his driving looked dodgey & kept out of
>>> the way. A bit further on at Godstone where the M25 goes from 4
>>> lanes to 3, truck driver in L1 who had plenty of time to move into
>>> L2 decided he wanted to stay on the M25 at the last minute, he
>>> pulled into L2(which is now L1) by going over the cross-hatched
>>> part of the slip road. Both in the wrong, both dangerous, or would
>>> you disagree?

>>
>> In principle, yes.
>>
>>

>
> Why would you disagree?

> Do you think that the actions of the drivers were correct, or do you
> think that the incidents were not dangerous, or both?