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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: Graculus
Date: Aug 23, 2008 13:54

"Mike P" privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "martin" etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Mike P wrote:
>>
>>> That's the main problem. When an airliner crashes, there rarely is time.
>>> I can't think of any crash where having a parachute would have made
>>> much, if any difference to the amount of fatalities. They don't just
>>> glide down from 35,000ft and hit the water or ground.
>>
>> I can think of exactly one.
>
> I can think of the Sioux City crash, but no others..

That wasn't a glide, the plane was under power the whole way down. Dammit,
that't the only thing they had to control it.
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: Mike G
Date: Aug 23, 2008 14:06

"martin" etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
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> allan tracy wrote:
>>>> Remember, the most dangerous part of your flight is the
>>>> drive to and
>>>> from the airport.
>>> So, how many people actually die on their way to the airport
>>> as compared
>>> to those who die in the aircraft.
>>>
>>> I'd like citations please. I'm fed up with this being quoted
>>> as fact
>>> when it's a load of bollocks.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, it's probably worse than the statistic I quoted
>> because the
>> road statistics include urban buses (which are very safe) take
>> those
>> out of the figures and the car would come out much worse. ...
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: Mike P
Date: Aug 23, 2008 14:12

"Graculus" hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Mike P" privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:6hb7b3Fkki1cU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "martin" etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:48b066f9$0$26085$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Mike P wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's the main problem. When an airliner crashes, there rarely is
>>>> time. I can't think of any crash where having a parachute would have
>>>> made much, if any difference to the amount of fatalities. They don't
>>>> just glide down from 35,000ft and hit the water or ground.
>>>
>>> I can think of exactly one.
>>
>> I can think of the Sioux City crash, but no others..
>
> That wasn't a glide, the plane was under power the whole way down. Dammit,
> that't the only thing they had to control it. ...
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: Mike P
Date: Aug 23, 2008 14:24

"martin" etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mike P wrote:
>>
>> "martin" etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:48b066f9$0$26085$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Mike P wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's the main problem. When an airliner crashes, there rarely is
>>>> time. I can't think of any crash where having a parachute would have
>>>> made much, if any difference to the amount of fatalities. They don't
>>>> just glide down from 35,000ft and hit the water or ground.
>>>
>>> I can think of exactly one.
>>
>> I can think of the Sioux City crash, but no others..
>>
>> Mike P
> that makes two Gimli Glider - damn they were luck - compared to your
> example ...
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: For example: John Smith
Date: Aug 23, 2008 15:35

"Fred X" himki.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:13:52 +0100, allan tracy
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A major air disaster then suddenly every minor aircraft technical
>> difficulty starts making the headlines.
>>
>> This is very much non-news.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7578428.stm
>>
>> Remember, the most dangerous part of your flight is the drive to and
>> from the airport.
>>
>> On a train or aircraft you're statistically about 15 times safer then
>> when you're in a car.
>>
>> Road safety is an oxymoron there's hardly any safety culture on the
>> roads compared to the airline or rail industries. ...
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:03

middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT), allan tracy
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Believe it or not, I quite like speed cameras.
>
> Why? They're nothing whatsoever to do with road safety, and
> everything to do with revenue generation.

Perhaps he's employed by one of the "safety" camera partnerships.
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Author: Michael C
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:12

"Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> middlelight@googlemail.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT), allan tracy
>> hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Believe it or not, I quite like speed cameras.
>>
>> Why? They're nothing whatsoever to do with road safety, and
>> everything to do with revenue generation.
>
> Perhaps he's employed by one of the "safety" camera partnerships.

Or maybe he just doesn't think that people have a right to break the speed
limits.
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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: FCS
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:32

On Aug 23, 6:13 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:
> A major air disaster then suddenly every minor aircraft technical
> difficulty starts making the headlines.
>
> This is very much non-news.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7578428.stm
>
> Remember, the most dangerous part of your flight is the drive to and
> from the airport.

Well, yes--for civilians. Reading aircraft maintenance
logs purporting to be from genuine serving forces may
leave you less confident.
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Author: The Older Gentleman
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:47

FCS my-deja.com> wrote:
> So, after having stood and watched me render
> the vehicle safe from any explosion risk, whilst
> remaining effectively trapped beneath it, and
> observed the way I single handedly freed myself
> after - after effectively having laid machinery for
> legal proceedings

I bet you're a fucking wow at parties.
>COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON

First time I've ever seen this on a Usenet posting. Oh dear, I've
breached it already.

Sheesh.

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Re: BBC News - This Always Happens         


Author: FCS
Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:54

On Aug 23, 6:44 pm, "Fred X" himki.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:13:52 +0100, allan tracy  
>
>
>
>
>
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>> A major air disaster then suddenly every minor aircraft technical
>> difficulty starts making the headlines.
>
>> This is very much non-news.
>
>
>> Remember, the most dangerous part of your flight is the drive to and
>> from the airport.
>
>> On a train or aircraft you're statistically about 15 times safer then
>> when you're in a car. ...
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