Has everyone forgotten that there is a reason for fuel duty and that
it's not strictly a tax - well certainly not where HGVs are concerned.

You see the f**king roads don't come for free except that is unless
you're an HGV driver because HGV taxation only covers 50%% of HGV
infrastructure costs (DfT's own figures) in other words they're
already subsidised.

If they are given special dispensation from fuel duty has anyone
considered the effect on their competitors the rail, maritime and
aviation freight carriers who receive zero subsidies?

As for most expensive fuel in Europe, well yes, but unlike most of
Europe the UK’s trunk roads are all toll free – another conveniently
forgotten fact.

At 27 million pound per mile motorways cost the f**king earth, and
that's why petrol should also.

On May 28, 6:37 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:

There's your problem.

Right there.

"allan tracy" hotmail.com> wrote

Has everyone forgotten that there is a reason for fuel duty and that
it's not strictly a tax - well certainly not where HGVs are concerned.

You see the f**king roads don't come for free except that is unless
you're an HGV driver because HGV taxation only covers 50%% of HGV
infrastructure costs (DfT's own figures) in other words they're
already subsidised.

So how much more do you want to pay for a loaf of bread?

On Wed, 28 May 2008 10:37:14 -0700, allan tracy wrote:

m6 toll road
severn bridge
forth bridge
several others most likely
london congestion charging...

the government already collect increased revenue from fuel through its
increased price... they just give it away to bankers and other shit
projects like olympics.... (well just giving it to the bankers/
financiers/developers again really... and toffpots like coes expenses
accounts...)

In message
<430984c1-2e1a-4277-99ee-5f3b31914141@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
allan tracy hotmail.com> writes

To put it simply...

The Labour Party had the miners to annoy Thatcher and bring down the
Heath Government and the Tories have the Road Haulage Association. Does
anyone really think the 2000 blockades were a non political bit of
spontaneity ? I've got my suspicions about the hang em and hunt em
brigade at the Countryside alliance too.

Juan Kerr wrote:

But if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it probably is a...

Road user contribute over 200 billion in various taxes and duties, but the
govt only spends about a 1/4 of that on the highway system, every other
country in the EU has a better road system than us, with even bigger trucks
yet fuel is still cheaper.
"allan tracy" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:430984c1-2e1a-4277-99ee-5f3b31914141@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Has everyone forgotten that there is a reason for fuel duty and that
it's not strictly a tax - well certainly not where HGVs are concerned.

You see the f**king roads don't come for free except that is unless
you're an HGV driver because HGV taxation only covers 50%% of HGV
infrastructure costs (DfT's own figures) in other words they're
already subsidised.

If they are given special dispensation from fuel duty has anyone
considered the effect on their competitors the rail, maritime and
aviation freight carriers who receive zero subsidies?

As for most expensive fuel in Europe, well yes, but unlike most of
Europe the UK

FriarTuck wrote:

You forgot the Dartford River Crossing, LOndon congestion charge & the
Hindhead tunnel when it is built.

Edward Cowling London UK wrote:

On 28 May, 18:37, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote: