Had it all this did.

One poor old biddy who needed to cross a busy junction every day had
had to resort to catching a bus just to cross the bloody road, due to
forty something pedestrian accidents in a single year.

You had to feel for him when, despite 17%% of his council tax going on
highways, there was zero provision for him as a pedestrian because our
cities have been given over almost entirely to cars.

No doubt all the motorists will bleat on about all tax they pay (in
which case that’s you’re problem) the point surely is that pedestrians
without cars also pay and the same could be said for cyclists whose
provision is just enough to ensure any death wish they may harbour.

Cyclist verses motorists, motorists verses buses, buses verses coaches
and coaches verses trucks, all of them versus the wardens and all of
them ganging up on the pedestrians.

Evidence, if evidence were needed, that it’s become a jungle out there
of seething frustration and a travelling lifestyle that should earn
you a coronary by forty, if you’re lucky to survive that long.

allan tracy wrote:

I think that bit was rather contrived. You can cross that junction (or
any similar) one carriageway width at a time, over the period of one
traffic light sequence (two at most).

But there *is* provision for pedestrians. We can cross in front of the
stationary traffic when the lights are red. Maybe not immediately
across two carriageways, but we can cross and it was deceitful of the
BBC to try to pretend otherwise.

Perhaps there should be more use of the plain vanilla zebra crossing
(rather than the sort which automatically turn traffic lights red in
sequence with something else, even when there isn't a ped within 100
yards).

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:55:03 -0800 (PST), allan tracy
hotmail.com> wrote:

Surely "Old Biddy" is a woman? When the guy who couldn't cross the road was
quite clearly a man.

D.

allan tracy wrote:

Sorry, I didn't see it, what country was this?

It certainly couldn't be Britain, because I can't think of a single
traffic light junction within miles of where I live that doesn't have
pedestrian lights, and most of them function whether there's a
pedestrian anywhere in sight or not. Carriageway usage across road
junctions has been halved in the last thirty years, the beneficiaries
being the dwindling number of pedestrians.

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:02:15 +0000, JNugent
noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote:

Are you forgetting about turning traffic ???

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:56:07 -0000, "David Wright"
gmail.com> wrote:

I wondered myself why he was described thus .He was definitely a man
..albeit a slow one ...

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:00:52 +0000, Joe jretrading.com> wrote:

"allan tracy" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:52631e5d-ed39-41f8-aefe-e6f137b3f0b0@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

I liked the bit with the 'red light' cyclists.

I think a suitable punishment when Plod seel them should be that their bike
is immediately conficated to be collected from the Pound the next day,
leaving them to walk wherever they were going.

IMHO they'd soon stop jumping lights.

tim

On 8 Jan, 19:06, Stuart B <> wrote:

Don't know where you live, but in the UK it's illegal for cars to turn
left on a red light, and all light-controlled junctions include a
phase within each sequence that allows pedestrians to cross.