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Author: EE507EE507 Date: Jun 26, 2008 13:59
On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
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> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
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>>That has to be one of
>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
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> So common :-(
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> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
> them.
I'm going to Denmark next month to see the extensive infrastructure
provided for cyclists in Odense and Copenhagen. This is an excellent
introduction to European best practice: http://www.eco-logica.co.uk/pdf/wtpp13.3.pdf.
Check out the woman cyclist being done for traffic offences - quite
right too!
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Author: Arthur FiggisArthur Figgis Date: Jun 26, 2008 14:21
EE507 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
> wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
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>>> That has to be one of
>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
>> So common :-(
>>
>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>> them.
>
> I'm going to Denmark next month to see the extensive infrastructure
> provided for cyclists in Odense and Copenhagen. This is an excellent
> introduction to European best practice: http://www.eco-logica.co.uk/pdf/wtpp13.3.pdf.
> Check out the woman cyclist being done for traffic offences - quite
> right too! ...
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Author: MortimerMortimer Date: Jun 26, 2008 14:44
"Arthur Figgis" example.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> EE507 wrote:
>>>> That has to be one of
>>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
>>> So common :-(
>>>
>>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>>> them.
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Date: Jun 26, 2008 15:10
EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Not as good as the cycle lane on Marton Road, Middlesbrough which has a
tree in the cycle lane at approximately 20ft intervals. Where there are
no trees there are bus stops, parking restriction notices and, yes,
phone boxes.
A marvellous bit of planning that leaves most cylists weaving into the
narrow pedestrian area.
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Author: NMNM Date: Jun 26, 2008 23:50
On 26 Jun, 21:59, EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
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>> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
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>>>That has to be one of
>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
Are bikes classed as traffic now, don't notice any registratoion
plates on them.
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>> So common :-(
>
>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>> them.
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:10
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:50:26 -0700 (PDT), NM mac.com>
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>Are bikes classed as traffic now, don't notice any registratoion
>plates on them.
Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on those
either.
Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.
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Author: Roger T.Roger T. Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:36
> Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on those
> either.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:44
Roger T. wrote:
>> Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on
>> those either.
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> Did you look under the tail?
And for people we should be looking where?
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Author: Roger MerrimanRoger Merriman Date: Jun 27, 2008 01:24
Mortimer privacy.net> wrote:
> "Arthur Figgis" example.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>> EE507 wrote:
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Author: FodFod Date: Jun 27, 2008 01:38
On Jun 26, 11:10 pm, %%ste...@ malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> Not as good as the cycle lane on Marton Road, Middlesbrough which has a
> tree in the cycle lane at approximately 20ft intervals. Where there are
> no trees there are bus stops, parking restriction notices and, yes,
> phone boxes.
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> A marvellous bit of planning that leaves most cylists weaving into the
> narrow pedestrian area.
Good cycle lanes, built in at the planning stage, are an excellent
idea.
Bad cycle lanes put in to tick a box without any thought are dangerous
for all road and pavement users :(
Fod
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