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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: EE507
Date: Jun 26, 2008 13:59

On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
wrote:
> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
>
>>That has to be one of
>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
>
> So common :-(
>
> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
> them.

I'm going to Denmark next month to see the extensive infrastructure
provided for cyclists in Odense and Copenhagen. This is an excellent
introduction to European best practice: http://www.eco-logica.co.uk/pdf/wtpp13.3.pdf.
Check out the woman cyclist being done for traffic offences - quite
right too!
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Arthur Figgis
Date: Jun 26, 2008 14:21

EE507 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
> wrote:
>> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
>>
>>> That has to be one of
>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
>> So common :-(
>>
>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>> them.
>
> I'm going to Denmark next month to see the extensive infrastructure
> provided for cyclists in Odense and Copenhagen. This is an excellent
> introduction to European best practice: http://www.eco-logica.co.uk/pdf/wtpp13.3.pdf.
> Check out the woman cyclist being done for traffic offences - quite
> right too! ...
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Mortimer
Date: Jun 26, 2008 14:44

"Arthur Figgis" example.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> EE507 wrote:
>>>> That has to be one of
>>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.
>>> So common :-(
>>>
>>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>>> them.
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Date: Jun 26, 2008 15:10

EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Not as good as the cycle lane on Marton Road, Middlesbrough which has a
tree in the cycle lane at approximately 20ft intervals. Where there are
no trees there are bus stops, parking restriction notices and, yes,
phone boxes.

A marvellous bit of planning that leaves most cylists weaving into the
narrow pedestrian area.
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: NM
Date: Jun 26, 2008 23:50

On 26 Jun, 21:59, EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 4:34 pm, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 26, 3:49 pm, Brian R wrote:
>
>>>That has to be one of
>>> my favourite hates of all time, bloody traffic lights that are operated
>>> by the approach of traffic, but not bikes.

Are bikes classed as traffic now, don't notice any registratoion
plates on them.
>
>> So common :-(
>
>> Added to the problem that many traffic lights will also change if they
>> spot a gap in the traffic - but they cant see a bike approaching so
>> they will regularly change when just a few seconds away approaching
>> them.
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Neil Williams
Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:10

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:50:26 -0700 (PDT), NM mac.com>
wrote:
>Are bikes classed as traffic now, don't notice any registratoion
>plates on them.

Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on those
either.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Roger T.
Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:36

> Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on those
> either.

Did you look under the tail?

--
Cheers

Roger T.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/
Latitude: 48
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jun 27, 2008 00:44

Roger T. wrote:
>> Yes. Horses are as well, and I don't see registration plates on
>> those either.
>
> Did you look under the tail?

And for people we should be looking where?
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Roger Merriman
Date: Jun 27, 2008 01:24

Mortimer privacy.net> wrote:
> "Arthur Figgis" example.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:_ICdnaP-7Kf5lfnVnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> EE507 wrote:
>>>>> That has to be one of
>>>>> my favourite hates of all...
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Re: BBC: Is this the new age of the train?         


Author: Fod
Date: Jun 27, 2008 01:38

On Jun 26, 11:10 pm, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Not as good as the cycle lane on Marton Road, Middlesbrough which has a
> tree in the cycle lane at approximately 20ft intervals. Where there are
> no trees there are bus stops, parking restriction notices and, yes,
> phone boxes.
>
> A marvellous bit of planning that leaves most cylists weaving into the
> narrow pedestrian area.

Good cycle lanes, built in at the planning stage, are an excellent
idea.
Bad cycle lanes put in to tick a box without any thought are dangerous
for all road and pavement users :(

Fod
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