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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 22, 2008 23:49
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/08/407369.html
" Yesterday (21st August), four protesters were convicted of
‘willfully obstructing a public highway’ and sentenced with an
‘unconditional discharge’ under the Highways Act (1) in Gray’s
Magistrate’s Court’s, Essex.
The four protesters, together with another four, locked-on the road
entrance to the Vopak Terminal in Essex, blocking the road and
preventing tankers from entering or leaving . Another 4 climbed up a
blended diesel silo to hang an agrofuels banner that advertised the
climate camp.
The Vopak terminal is the biggest supplier of agrofuels in the South-
East of England; distributors Tesco and Greenergy (2) supply fuel
stations in the South East with blended diesel. A tanker filled with a
diesel and agrofuel mix leaves the terminal every 3 minutes.
The protesters caused the terminal to be closed until 12.30pm,
successfully causing massive disruption to the operation of the
terminal, with no tankers entering or leaving during this time.
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Author: AboAbo Date: Aug 23, 2008 05:19
Doug wrote:
> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/08/407369.html
>
> " Yesterday (21st August), four protesters were convicted of
> ‘willfully obstructing a public highway’ and sentenced with an
> ‘unconditional discharge’ under the Highways Act (1) in Gray’s
> Magistrate’s Court’s, Essex.
I bet they (and you) see this is a let-off or even approval of their
actions, but they now have criminal records, if they didn't have them
before...
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Abo
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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 23, 2008 23:53
On 23 Aug, 13:19, Abo wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>
>> " Yesterday (21st August), four protesters were convicted of
>> ‘willfully obstructing a public highway’ and sentenced with an
>> ‘unconditional discharge’ under the Highways Act (1) in Gray’s
>> Magistrate’s Court’s, Essex.
>
> I bet they (and you) see this is a let-off or even approval of their
> actions, but they now have criminal records, if they didn't have them
> before...
>
So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live in
criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
a criminal record. So what?
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Author: GraculusGraculus Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:01
> Doug wrote:
>
>> " Yesterday (21st August), four protesters were convicted of
>> ‘willfully obstructing a public highway’ and sentenced with an
>> ‘unconditional discharge’ under the Highways Act (1) in Gray’s
>> Magistrate’s Court’s, Essex.
>
> I bet they (and you) see this is a let-off or even approval of their
> actions, but they now have criminal records, if they didn't have them
> before...
>
So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live in
criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
a criminal record. So what?
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Aug 24, 2008 00:38
"Doug" riseup.net> wrote
We live in
criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
a criminal record.
Not so, the thought of a senile and demented coffin-dodger spanking one out
over Fern Britton in her bikini is offensive but does not give rise to a
criminal record.
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Author: ConorConor Date: Aug 24, 2008 01:55
> So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live in
> criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
> a criminal record. So what?
>
I have no criminal record despite driving more in the past 15 years
than most would drive in the thick end of two lifetimes.
Just because you're a motorist it doesn't follow that you have to have
a criminal record.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: ConorConor Date: Aug 24, 2008 01:57
> Not strictly true. Paying a Fixed Penalty Notice, which is where most
> speeding offences are handled, is not a criminal conviction, as no court has
> been involved.
>
Are you convinced? You'll find you have to declare it though when asked
to declare all convictions including motoring offences.
AFAIUI, it is still a criminal conviction. You basically pleaded guilty
and was awarded a punitive penalty.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Aug 24, 2008 02:38
Conor wrote:
>> So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live in
>> criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
>> a criminal record. So what?
>>
> I have no criminal record despite driving more in the past 15 years
> than most would drive in the thick end of two lifetimes.
>
> Just because you're a motorist it doesn't follow that you have to have
> a criminal record.
That's not what Doug says.
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Author: ConorConor Date: Aug 24, 2008 05:40
In article bt.com>, Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
>>> So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live in
>>> criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give rise to
>>> a criminal record. So what?
>>>
>> I have no criminal record despite driving more in the past 15 years
>> than most would drive in the thick end of two lifetimes.
>>
>> Just because you're a motorist it doesn't follow that you have to have
>> a criminal record.
>
> That's not what Doug says.
>
That's fine..I won't lose any sleep over it.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Aug 24, 2008 05:42
Conor wrote:
> In article bt.com>, Brimstone
> says...
>> Conor wrote:
>>>> So is every motorist who gets convicted of speeding, etc. We live
>>>> in criminalising times where almost every petty offence can give
>>>> rise to a criminal record. So what?
>>>>
>>> I have no criminal record despite driving more in the past 15 years
>>> than most would drive in the thick end of two lifetimes.
>>>
>>> Just because you're a motorist it doesn't follow that you have to
>>> have a criminal record.
>>
>> That's not what Doug says.
>>
> That's fine..I won't lose any sleep over it. ...
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