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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 21, 2008 14:59
I just wanted to put on record my congratulations to our heroic Brothers,
the Shell tanker drivers, following the most effective industrial action
this country has seen for a generation.
The drivers wanted 7%% but in a brilliant display of negotiating skill, Shell
settled for 14%%.
Governments might be prepared to take on the miners or the firemen for a
lengthy period, but four days of a partial, part-time truck drivers strike
was enough to make Mr Brown wake up and smell the coffee, make a few phone
calls and knock a few heads together.
So now the rest of us truckers are looking at this settlement with our beady
little rat-like eyes and thinking "Hmmmm. We'll have some of that".
I think you'll be hearing more from us this year.
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Author: JNugentJNugent Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:02
Knight Of The Road wrote:
> I just wanted to put on record my congratulations to our heroic Brothers,
> the Shell tanker drivers, following the most effective industrial action
> this country has seen for a generation.
> The drivers wanted 7%% but in a brilliant display of negotiating skill, Shell
> settled for 14%%.
They aren't employed by Shell...
> Governments might be prepared to take on the miners or the firemen for a
> lengthy period, but four days of a partial, part-time truck drivers strike
> was enough to make Mr Brown wake up and smell the coffee, make a few phone
> calls and knock a few heads together.
> So now the rest of us truckers are looking at this settlement with our beady
> little rat-like eyes and thinking "Hmmmm. We'll have some of that".
> I think you'll be hearing more from us this year.
Just give us all a bit of a nod and a wink to fill up first, eh? ;-)
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:13
JNugent wrote:
> Knight Of The Road wrote:
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>> I just wanted to put on record my congratulations to our heroic
>> Brothers, the Shell tanker drivers, following the most effective
>> industrial action this country has seen for a generation.
>
>> The drivers wanted 7%% but in a brilliant display of negotiating
>> skill, Shell settled for 14%%.
>
> They aren't employed by Shell...
Very true, but they work for Shell and undoubtedly it was Shell holding the
purse strings.
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Author: NMNM Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:29
> JNugent NPPTG.com> wrote:
>> Knight Of The Road wrote:
>
>>> I just wanted to put on record my congratulations to our heroic Brothers,
>>> the Shell tanker drivers, following the most effective industrial action
>>> this country has seen for a generation.
>
>>> The drivers wanted 7%% but in a brilliant display of negotiating skill, Shell
>>> settled for 14%%.
>
>> They aren't employed by Shell...
>
>>> Governments might be prepared to take on the miners or the firemen for a
>>> lengthy period, but four days of a partial, part-time truck drivers strike
>>> was enough to make Mr Brown wake up and smell the coffee, make a few phone
>>> calls and knock a few heads together.
>
>>> So now the rest of us truckers are looking at this settlement with our beady
>>> little rat-like eyes and thinking "Hmmmm. We'll have some of that". ...
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:36
"JNugent" NPPTG.com> wrote
> They aren't employed by Shell...
They are in all but name.
> Just give us all a bit of a nod and a wink to fill up first, eh? ;-)
Don't I always? :-)
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:39
"SteveH" italiancar.co.uk> wrote
> If the drivers thing either Hoyer or Shell won't have long-term plans to
> fuck them over,
How could they do that, Ger-ge-ger-ger Granville?
In a Supply & Demand economy, it's us that are in demand.
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Author: SteveHSteveH Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:41
NM mac.com> wrote:
>> If the drivers thing either Hoyer or Shell won't have long-term plans to
>> fuck them over, they're even more stupid than they looked on TV.
>
> 14%%'s worth of stupid.
>
> Sour grapes?
Hope they enjoy the short to medium term pay rise.
Do you really think any large company would cave in so quickly if they
didn't have longer term plans to claw this back in other ways?
Both Shell and Hoyer will be planning ways in which they can get their
revenge and cut their costs.
Unions bullying employers rarely win on a long term basis - especially
when the workforce are largely unskilled and relatively easily replaced.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE
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Author: SteveHSteveH Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:44
Knight Of The Road hotmail.com> wrote:
> "SteveH" italiancar.co.uk> wrote
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>> If the drivers thing either Hoyer or Shell won't have long-term plans to
>> fuck them over,
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> How could they do that, Ger-ge-ger-ger Granville?
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> In a Supply & Demand economy, it's us that are in demand.
Enjoy it whilst it lasts.
There are many people out there now who have seen the £42k headlines and
will be considering a career change.
The wider-ranging effects could well be that a foreign owned company
with foreign drivers realises they can undercut Hoyer with lower, but
still well-paid drivers....
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:48
"SteveH" italiancar.co.uk> wrote
> - especially
> when the workforce are largely unskilled and relatively easily replaced.
It would have been easier to have said "I am stupid".
I couldn't do it. There are mountains of paperwork to begin with, and I
couldn't (or wouldn't) do that.
The thing is that petrol tanker drivers need to be a cut above the
Yorkie-eating, wank-mag reading greasy spoon eater such as myself, and they
were understandably pissed off that they were earning no more than I do.
They won because they threatened to do the same again this weekend. So the
Government caved in (The Government will have told Shell to cough up the
money or else)
Did you get a pay rise this year Granville? Is this just sour grapes?
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Jun 21, 2008 15:58
"SteveH" italiancar.co.uk> wrote
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> The wider-ranging effects could well be that a foreign owned company
> with foreign drivers realises they can undercut Hoyer
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