> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following article for
> perusal.
>
> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...
>
> If I may, I'd also like to add my own comment. I realise this is unusual,
> but I feel I must.
>
> My 4x4's about 11 years old now, as are many others, and I can't see any
> reason why I would ever need to change it, short of complete breakdown.
> This is unlike most other types of car, including the smaller gas sipping
> super minis etc.
>
> It's not a fashion symbol, it's not a gas guzzler, it regularly carries
> family and goods between markets/farm/town/family members and is rarely
> washed, let alone have detergents regularly used on it, as most city cars
> tend to.
>
> In short I love my 4x4, and Doug and his environmetalist mateys can just ...

> On 26 Jan, 14:03, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:

>> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following
>> article for perusal.
>>
>> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...
>>
>> If I may, I'd also like to add my own comment. I realise this is
>> unusual, but I feel I must.
>>
>> My 4x4's about 11 years old now, as are many others, and I can't see
>> any reason why I would ever need to change it, short of complete
>> breakdown. This is unlike most other types of car, including the
>> smaller gas sipping super minis etc.
>>
>> It's not a fashion symbol, it's not a gas guzzler, it regularly
>> carries family and goods between markets/farm/town/family members
>> and is rarely washed, let alone have detergents regularly used on
>> it, as most city cars tend to.
>> ...

> No amount of cherry picking of untypical, smaller 4x4s will obscure
> the fact that the use of the worst offenders in urban areas, and some
> use in rural areas, is completely unjustifiable.

> On 26 Jan, 14:03, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:

>> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following
>> article for perusal.
>>
>> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...
>>
>> If I may, I'd also like to add my own comment. I realise this is
>> unusual, but I feel I must.
>>
>> My 4x4's about 11 years old now, as are many others, and I can't see
>> any reason why I would ever need to change it, short of complete
>> breakdown. This is unlike most other types of car, including the
>> smaller gas sipping super minis etc.
>>
>> It's not a fashion symbol, it's not a gas guzzler, it regularly
>> carries family and goods between markets/farm/town/family members
>> and is rarely washed, let alone have detergents regularly used on
>> it, as most city cars tend to.
>> ...

> On 26 Jan, 14:03, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:
>

>> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following article for
>> perusal.

>

>>http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...

>

>> If I may, I'd also like to add my own comment.  I realise this is unusual,
>> but I feel I must.

>

>> My 4x4's about 11 years old now, as are many others, and I can't see any
>> reason why I would ever need to change it, short of complete breakdown.
>> This is unlike most other types of car, including the smaller gas sipping
>> super minis etc.

>

>> It's not a fashion symbol, it's not a gas guzzler, it regularly carries
>> family and goods between markets/farm/town/family members and is rarely
>> washed, let alone have detergents regularly used on it, as most city cars
>> tend to. ...

> The only justification required is, I can afford one. I want one, so
> I have bought one, I don't give a flying fuck what you enviroloony
> wankers think.

> Doug wrote:

>> On 26 Jan, 14:03, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:

>>> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following
>>> article for perusal.
>>>
>>> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...
>>>
>>> If I may, I'd also like to add my own comment. I realise this is
>>> unusual, but I feel I must.
>>>
>>> My 4x4's about 11 years old now, as are many others, and I can't see
>>> any reason why I would ever need to change it, short of complete
>>> breakdown. This is unlike most other types of car, including the
>>> smaller gas sipping super minis etc.
>>>
>>> It's not a fashion symbol, it's not a gas guzzler, it regularly
>>> carries family and goods between markets/farm/town/family members
>>> and is rarely washed, let alone have detergents regularly used on
>>> it, as most city cars tend to. ...

> Doug riseup.net> wrote:

>> No amount of cherry picking of untypical, smaller 4x4s will obscure
>> the fact that the use of the worst offenders in urban areas, and some
>> use in rural areas, is completely unjustifiable.

>
> No amount of common sense will ever break through the walls of prejudice
> that you have erected around yourself.

> On 27 Jan, 12:11, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

>> Doug riseup.net> wrote:

>>> No amount of cherry picking of untypical, smaller 4x4s will obscure
>>> the fact that the use of the worst offenders in urban areas, and
>>> some use in rural areas, is completely unjustifiable.

>>
>> No amount of common sense will ever break through the walls of
>> prejudice that you have erected around yourself.

>
> I forgot to point out that cars are not 'green' or 'greener', that is
> just plain greenwash. More accurately cars are 'more or less filthy'.
> 4x4s tend to be more filthy.

>On 26 Jan, 14:03, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:

>> In the best traditions of this newsgroup I offer the following article for
>> perusal.
>>
>> http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/features/...