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Author: DougDoug Date: Apr 22, 2008 23:46
For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
"May 1st, international workers day, has traditionally been a day to
challenge the capitalist system and a celebration of solidarity and
workers' struggle for a more just social system.
On this day we are calling on people to make the link between
capitalism, economic growth, climate change and social struggle.
As climate change is starting to hit people around the world, a huge
number of techno-fixes are forming a new economic sector: from
biofuels to nuclear power, carbon-trading to hydrogen fuel cells,
carbon capture and storage. Everywhere corporations are seeking the
elusive elixir which allows us to continue business as usual. All this
whilst our planet is burning and people are loosing their homes, their
livelyhoods and their lives to climate chaos.
All of these technologies are a distraction from the root cause of
climate change: an economic system based on endless economic growth
not only at the cost of the environment we live in but also based on
an exploitative social system.
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Apr 22, 2008 23:57
Doug wrote:
> For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
>
> "May 1st, international workers day, has traditionally been a day to
> challenge the capitalist system and a celebration of solidarity and
> workers' struggle for a more just social system.
Is there a day of any month when you or somebody else does not announce
an 'action day'?
>
> On this day we are calling on people to make the link between
> capitalism, economic growth, climate change and social struggle.
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Author: DougDoug Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:02
On 23 Apr, 07:57, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:> Doug wrote:
>> For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
>
>> "May 1st, international workers day, has traditionally been a day to
>> challenge the capitalist system and a celebration of solidarity and
>> workers' struggle for a more just social system.
>
> Is there a day of any month when you or somebody else does not announce
> an 'action day'?
>
Yes winter months are less popular.
>
>
>> On this day we are calling on people to make the link between
>> capitalism, economic growth, climate change and social struggle.
>
> All things are linked in some way.
>
But the links may not be acknowledged. ...
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Author: Gizmo.Gizmo. Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:08
> For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
>
> "May 1st, international workers day, has traditionally been a day to
> challenge the capitalist system and a celebration of solidarity and
> workers' struggle for a more just social system.
>
> On this day we are calling on people to make the link between
> capitalism, economic growth, climate change and social struggle.
Capitalism = Nothing wrong with that
Economic Growth - pretty much linked to capitalism = Nothing wrong with that
Climate Change = couldnt give a toss.
Social struggle = losers.
I take it you'll be sat at home while others protest on your behalf then
Doug ?
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Author: DougDoug Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:18
On 23 Apr, 09:08, "Gizmo." gmail.com> wrote:>> For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
>
>> "May 1st, international workers day, has traditionally been a day to
>> challenge the capitalist system and a celebration of solidarity and
>> workers' struggle for a more just social system.
>
>> On this day we are calling on people to make the link between
>> capitalism, economic growth, climate change and social struggle.
>
> Capitalism = Nothing wrong with that
> Economic Growth - pretty much linked to capitalism = Nothing wrong with that
>
I'm glad you connect the two because perpetual economic growth is
harmful.
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Author: Brian WhiteheadBrian Whitehead Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:24
On 23 Apr, 09:18, Doug riseup.net> wrote:>
> I'm glad you connect the two because perpetual economic growth is
> harmful.
>
> Quote:
>
> "Four major critical arguments are generally raised against economic
> growth:
How would you and your mates continue to receive your state benefits
without economic growth, Duhng?
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Author: FodFod Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:49
On Apr 23, 7:46 am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> For those still seeking the elusive elixir.
more like a bunch of melons trying to con true greens into a red
action.
Fod
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Author: FodFod Date: Apr 23, 2008 01:51
On Apr 23, 9:24 am, Brian Whitehead hotmail.com>
wrote:> On 23 Apr, 09:18, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
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>>> I'm glad you connect the two because perpetual economic growth is
>> harmful.
>
>> Quote:
>
>> "Four major critical arguments are generally raised against economic
>> growth:
>
> How would you and your mates continue to receive your state benefits
> without economic growth, Duhng?
Hmm.... if we go back to the 18th century's way of doing things Doug
would be in a work house. Suddenly i'm tempted by his back to basics
approach.
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Author: Brian WhiteheadBrian Whitehead Date: Apr 23, 2008 02:26
On 23 Apr, 09:51, Fod googlemail.com> wrote:> On Apr 23, 9:24 am, Brian Whitehead hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> On 23 Apr, 09:18, Doug riseup.net> wrote:>
>>> I'm glad you connect the two because perpetual economic growth is
>>> harmful.
>
>>> Quote:
>
>>> "Four major critical arguments are generally raised against economic
>>> growth:
>
>> How would you and your mates continue to receive your state benefits
>> without economic growth, Duhng?
>
> Hmm.... if we go back to the 18th century's way of doing things Doug
> would be in a work house. Suddenly i'm tempted by his back to basics
> approach. ...
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Author: Gizmo.Gizmo. Date: Apr 23, 2008 02:40
"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:27a48850-f9af-42c0-800d-c4a2b2cf079e@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 23 Apr, 09:08, "Gizmo." gmail.com> wrote:> "Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
> Not at all Gizmo, I am often out there protesting. What about you, or
> are you being hypocritical?
I don't feel the need to protest ... why should I ?
I look after number 1 - That's me, my family and close friends.
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