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Author: FodFod Date: Oct 27, 2007 07:43
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Oct 27, 2007 08:06
Fod wrote:
There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't need to
be imported.
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Oct 27, 2007 08:33
"Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote
> There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't need to
> be imported.
Other than that many types of fruit and vegetables, organic or not cannot be
grown in the UK because of its climate.
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Author: FodFod Date: Oct 27, 2007 08:41
On Oct 27, 4:33 pm, "Knight Of The Road" hotmail.com>
wrote:
> "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote
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>> There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't need to
>> be imported.
>
> Other than that many types of fruit and vegetables, organic or not cannot be
> grown in the UK because of its climate.
>
If funny that Doug thinks you should change yourlifestyle for the good
of the environment but seems reluctant to give up his, despite it
requiring a lot of air transport ( and he's against the growth of air
transport)
Maybe funny isnt the right word...
Fod
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Author: peterthomas8899peterthomas8899 Date: Oct 27, 2007 09:25
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:41:00 -0700, Fod
googlemail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 27, 4:33 pm, "Knight Of The Road" hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote
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>>> There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't need to
>>> be imported.
>>
>> Other than that many types of fruit and vegetables, organic or not cannot be
>> grown in the UK because of its climate.
>>
>
>If funny that Doug thinks you should change yourlifestyle for the good
>of the environment but seems reluctant to give up his, despite it
>requiring a lot of air transport ( and he's against the growth of air
>transport)
>
>Maybe funny isnt the right word...
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Date: Oct 27, 2007 09:26
Fod googlemail.com> wrote:
The Soil Association which has Lord "many hats" Melchett at the helm is
about obtaining high prices for a number of UK producers. It attempts to
introduce restrictive practices via the back door to avoid competition
from the rest of Europe.
It's largely a marketing exercise and their standard for "organic"
production permits a number of pesticides to be used. Not many of those
who buy "organic" realise that it does not mean "pesticide free".
It's no suprise to see them whittling on about transport, which has
bugger all to do with whether a product is "organic" or not. And since
they cannot ban the import of organic food certified by other EU
regulatory bodies, it seems ultimately self defeating.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Oct 27, 2007 10:13
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:41:00 -0700, Fod
> googlemail.com> wrote:
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>> On Oct 27, 4:33 pm, "Knight Of The Road" hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote
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>>>> There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't
>>>> need to be imported.
>>>
>>> Other than that many types of fruit and vegetables, organic or not
>>> cannot be grown in the UK because of its climate.
>>>
>>
>> If funny that Doug thinks you should change yourlifestyle for the
>> good of the environment but seems reluctant to give up his, despite
>> it requiring a lot of air transport ( and he's against the growth of
>> air transport)
>> ...
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Author: TommyTommy Date: Oct 27, 2007 11:05
Steve Firth wrote:
> It's no suprise to see them whittling on about transport, which has
> bugger all to do with whether a product is "organic" or not. And since
> they cannot ban the import of organic food certified by other EU
> regulatory bodies, it seems ultimately self defeating.
Not at all a bigotted view then - cheap food is everything, sod animal
welfare or long term reliability of food supplies
No wonder the Portsmouth Chavs are lard asses :)
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Date: Oct 27, 2007 11:02
Brimstone yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> AIUI simply converting the stone into powder releases all the stored CO2,
Umm no.
Converting limestone into lime releases all the CO2 stored in the
calcium carbonate. But that's not "simply converting the stone into
powder" it's a chemical rather than a mechanical process.
However cement is effectively carbon neutral. All the CO2 driven off
from the limestone is reabsorbed, albeit slowly, when the cement
hardens. The net CO2 released during cement making is that from the
fuel burned to provide the heat and mechanical energy and that required
for transport.
A long time ago it was possible for cement works to burn old tyres
(carbon neutral) to provide the heat in the furnaces, but the likes of
Duhg got that stopped.
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Author: Porridge WogPorridge Wog Date: Oct 27, 2007 11:10
"Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Fod wrote:
> There's plenty of space to grow organic food in the UK. It doesn't need to
> be imported.
Yes but if you want Strawberries at times other than June/July..........
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