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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Sep 15, 2007 06:24
Bless 'em, they're trying to do something constructive with their spare
time, but they need some way of rooting out the rogue data. I think the
little enclave of RG (which is the Reading postcode) in the middle of
Streatham is my favourite bit.
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/
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Author: Stephen FarrowStephen Farrow Date: Sep 15, 2007 07:59
John Rowland wrote:
> Bless 'em, they're trying to do something constructive with their spare
> time, but they need some way of rooting out the rogue data. I think the
> little enclave of RG (which is the Reading postcode) in the middle of
> Streatham is my favourite bit.
>
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/
>
>
Just like there appears to be an enclave of SK (Stockport) in the middle
of OL (Oldham), and OL4 apparently doesn't exist at all, while there are
two OL15s, and OL2 is apparently centred on the Woodhead pass towards
Penistone.
It's a nice idea, but the execution's... sad.
--
Stephen
I got attacked by a... pencil scribble?
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Sep 15, 2007 09:06
On 15 Sep, 15:59, Stephen Farrow gmail.com> wrote:
> John Rowland wrote:
>> Bless 'em, they're trying to do something constructive with their spare
>> time, but they need some way of rooting out the rogue data. I think the
>> little enclave of RG (which is the Reading postcode) in the middle of
>> Streatham is my favourite bit.
>
>
> Just like there appears to be an enclave of SK (Stockport) in the middle
> of OL (Oldham), and OL4 apparently doesn't exist at all, while there are
> two OL15s, and OL2 is apparently centred on the Woodhead pass towards
> Penistone.
And it seems that a lot of the sea bed has a postcode too.
>
> It's a nice idea, but the execution's... sad.
>
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Author: MIGMIG Date: Sep 15, 2007 09:26
On Sep 15, 2:24 pm, "John Rowland"
journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Bless 'em, they're trying to do something constructive with their spare
> time, but they need some way of rooting out the rogue data. I think the
> little enclave of RG (which is the Reading postcode) in the middle of
> Streatham is my favourite bit.
>
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/
That's the big floaty one which is still visible when you zoom out.
Those seem to be wildly wrong all over the place, but I think the
individual postcodes when you zoom in are more accurate.
Then again ... not much more. Interesting that there's an SE08 as
well as SE8, an E32 next to E3, two E1Ws in different places, an E61
(wow). Not just in the wrong places, but they don't exist.
If it wasn't for the non-existent ones, I'd wonder if it was a simple
programming bug, and they'd all line up if it was fixed.
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Author: Abigail BradyAbigail Brady Date: Sep 15, 2007 10:31
On Sep 15, 5:26 pm, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> Then again ... not much more. Interesting that there's an SE08 as
> well as SE8, an E32 next to E3, two E1Ws in different places, an E61
> (wow). Not just in the wrong places, but they don't exist.
>
> If it wasn't for the non-existent ones, I'd wonder if it was a simple
> programming bug, and they'd all line up if it was fixed.
It's really just a technology demonstration to show what can be done
with the data - and also to visualise how good the data is! The
particularly odd bits of data most likely derive from random people
misunderstanding how to enter postcode data.
The postcode stuff isn't a core part of OSM, and is going to be far
harder to survey independently than streets themselves, which we're
doing reasonably well at in some places.
--
Abi
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Author: Stephen FarrowStephen Farrow Date: Sep 15, 2007 10:34
MIG wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2:24 pm, "John Rowland"
> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Bless 'em, they're trying to do something constructive with their spare
>> time, but they need some way of rooting out the rogue data. I think the
>> little enclave of RG (which is the Reading postcode) in the middle of
>> Streatham is my favourite bit.
>>
>> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/
>
>
> That's the big floaty one which is still visible when you zoom out.
>
> Those seem to be wildly wrong all over the place, but I think the
> individual postcodes when you zoom in are more accurate.
Not in my part of the world, they're not (see separate post further up
the thread).
--
Stephen
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Sep 15, 2007 11:00
On 15 Sep, 18:31, Abigail Brady gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 5:26 pm, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Then again ... not much more. Interesting that there's an SE08 as
>> well as SE8, an E32 next to E3, two E1Ws in different places, an E61
>> (wow). Not just in the wrong places, but they don't exist.
>
>> If it wasn't for the non-existent ones, I'd wonder if it was a simple
>> programming bug, and they'd all line up if it was fixed.
>
> It's really just a technology demonstration to show what can be done
> with the data - and also to visualise how good the data is! The
> particularly odd bits of data most likely derive from random people
> misunderstanding how to enter postcode data.
>
> The postcode stuff isn't a core part of OSM, and is going to be far
> harder to survey independently than streets themselves, which we're
> doing reasonably well at in some places.
>
> -- ...
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Sep 15, 2007 11:06
Abigail Brady wrote:
> On Sep 15, 5:26 pm, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>> Then again ... not much more. Interesting that there's an SE08 as
>> well as SE8, an E32 next to E3, two E1Ws in different places, an E61
>> (wow). Not just in the wrong places, but they don't exist.
>>
>> If it wasn't for the non-existent ones, I'd wonder if it was a simple
>> programming bug, and they'd all line up if it was fixed.
>
> It's really just a technology demonstration to show what can be done
> with the data - and also to visualise how good the data is! The
> particularly odd bits of data most likely derive from random people
> misunderstanding how to enter postcode data.
>
> The postcode stuff isn't a core part of OSM, and is going to be far
> harder to survey independently than streets themselves...
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Author: Clive D. W. FeatherClive D. W. Feather Date: Sep 15, 2007 14:58
In article , Stephen Farrow
gmail.com> writes
>Just like there appears to be an enclave of SK (Stockport) in the
>middle of OL (Oldham), and OL4 apparently doesn't exist at all, while
>there are two OL15s, and OL2 is apparently centred on the Woodhead pass
>towards Penistone.
It also doesn't understand the Cambridgeshire recoding. CBn and CB2n
aren't horribly intermingled. Rather, CBn codes outside the city
boundary are being changed to CB2n codes, sometimes by just adding the 2
and sometimes by more drastic changes.
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Clive D.W. Feather | Home: davros.org>
Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: <http://www.davros.org>
Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: demon.net>
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: davros.org>
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Author: Abigail BradyAbigail Brady Date: Sep 15, 2007 15:59
On Sep 15, 7:06 pm, "John Rowland"
journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> If you're connected with the project, could you get them to put in the
> ability for third parties to mark data points as erroneous?
I think this is their ambition.
> Also, the data
> entrants should be shown the effect that each new datum has on that map
> before they approve it for permanent inclusion in the database.
That's an interesting idea. One thing that may not be immediately
apparent is that the main postcode database source is trying to be PD,
and is therefore based around people locating their postcode on out-of-
copyright Ordnance Survey maps. Which are therefore >50 years old.
Feeding actual openstreetmap tiles (which are creative commons) into
this process might be considered to make the resulting data creative
commons as well. (Perhaps this is hyper-cautious, certainly the OS
are of the opinion that if you find lots of things on one of their
copyrighted maps and make a table of their coordinates, that's a
derived work. Not sure of any UK caselaw.)
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