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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 18, 2008 14:12
Anyone know?
I've been musing on another Oyster scam.
Buy card for 3 quid - put minimum amount on , say 1 quid. Travel to
and from station where you have to touch in/out because there are no
gates. Get back to your station , touch out - card will go into
negative balance - bin it.
I'm pretty such LU must have thought of this one but I'm wondering if
there are any circumstances you'd end up quids in?
B2003
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Author: Paul CorfieldPaul Corfield Date: Jun 18, 2008 14:37
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@ googlemail.com
wrote:
>Anyone know?
It's the minimum fare at that station - £1 outside Z1 and £1.50 in Z1.
>I've been musing on another Oyster scam.
>
>Buy card for 3 quid - put minimum amount on , say 1 quid. Travel to
>and from station where you have to touch in/out because there are no
>gates. Get back to your station , touch out - card will go into
>negative balance - bin it.
I don't understand this example - especially the no gates bit. Is the
word "don't" missing in one of the sentences?
>I'm pretty such LU must have thought of this one but I'm wondering if
>there are any circumstances you'd end up quids in?
How do you end up quids in when value is deducted on entry to the
system?
--
Paul C
Admits to working for London Underground!
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 18, 2008 15:24
On Jun 18, 10:37 pm, Paul Corfield dsl.pipex.com> wrote:> I don't understand this example - especially the no gates bit. Is the
> word "don't" missing in one of the sentences?
Yes, should have said "don't touch in/out".
>
>>I'm pretty such LU must have thought of this one but I'm wondering if
>>there are any circumstances you'd end up quids in?
>
> How do you end up quids in when value is deducted on entry to the
> system?
Huh?
I buy a card for 3 quid + 1 quid value. Go through the gates to DLR or
NR station with no gates.
Come back the same way and touch out at my station. 8 quid gets
deducted so card goes
negative (gates always seem to let you out no matter how negative it
goes as long as its positive
to start with), would have cost 5 quid even if I had touched in /out ,
I paid 4 quid. 1 pound up.
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Author: asdfasdf Date: Jun 18, 2008 15:52
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@ googlemail.com
wrote:
>> How do you end up quids in when value is deducted on entry to the
>> system?
>
>Huh?
>
>I buy a card for 3 quid + 1 quid value. Go through the gates to DLR or
>NR station with no gates.
>Come back the same way and touch out at my station. 8 quid gets
>deducted so card goes
>negative (gates always seem to let you out no matter how negative it
>goes as long as its positive
>to start with),
But at the time you touch out, the balance is -£3. (The 4 quid gets
deducted on entry, and refunded if you touch out correctly.)
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Author: googlegoogle Date: Jun 19, 2008 02:05
> I buy a card for 3 quid + 1 quid value. Go through the gates to DLR or
> NR station with no gates.
> Come back the same way and touch out at my station. 8 quid gets
> deducted so card goes
> negative (gates always seem to let you out no matter how negative it
> goes as long as its positive
> to start with), would have cost 5 quid even if I had touched in /out ,
> I paid 4 quid. 1 pound up.
>
> Bin card, rinse and repeat.
>
You still risk getting a penalty fare if you get stopped on your
return journey (unless it's within two hours of your initial entry
where you'd probably only get charged 1GBP anyway when you exit from
the same station.)
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 19, 2008 10:25
On Jun 19, 10:05 am, "goo...@woodall.me.uk"
wrote:
> Either way, the total savings are 2GBP per day in return for queuing
> up twice per day to buy a new oyster. And I suspect the station staff
> would eventually get to know you and start to get a bit suspicious.
If you did it every day yes , if its occasionally I doubt it.
> deliberately taking advantage of the overdraft facility without any
> intention of ever repaying it would be theft.
LULs rip off fares for thei utterly shit service are theft IMHO.
Besides , why not use their oh-so-clever extortion system against them
occasionally? Poetic justice.
B2003
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 19, 2008 10:21
On Jun 18, 11:52 pm, asdf wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:24:17 -0700 (PDT), thagor2...@ googlemail.com
> wrote:
> >>> How do you end up quids in when value is deducted on entry to the
>>> system?
>
>>Huh?
>
>>I buy a card for 3 quid + 1 quid value. Go through the gates to DLR or
>>NR station with no gates.
>>Come back the same way and touch out at my station. 8 quid gets
>>deducted so card goes
>>negative (gates always seem to let you out no matter how negative it
>>goes as long as its positive
>>to start with),
>
> But at the time you touch out, the balance is -£3. (The 4 quid gets
> deducted on entry, and refunded if you touch out correctly.)
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Author: peterpeter Date: Jun 21, 2008 19:39
"Paul Corfield" dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:fpvi541uhcn1d35qrtnaglej1qnhta01pf@4ax.com...> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@ googlemail.com
> wrote:
> >>Anyone know?
>
> It's the minimum fare at that station - £1 outside Z1 and £1.50 in Z1.
>
> --
> Paul C
>
>
So will the gate at the destination let you out, if after deducting the
correct fare, the balance on the card is negative?
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 22, 2008 02:10
On 22 Jun, 03:39, "peter" junk.com.au> wrote:> "Paul Corfield" dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> news:fpvi541uhcn1d35qrtnaglej1qnhta01pf@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT), thagor2...@ googlemail.com
>> wrote: >
>>>Anyone know?
>
>> It's the minimum fare at that station - £1 outside Z1 and £1.50 in Z1.
>
>
>> --
>> Paul C
>
> So will the gate at the destination let you out, if after deducting the
> correct fare, the balance on the card is negative?
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Author: ChrisChris Date: Jun 23, 2008 02:20
> On 22 Jun, 03:39, "peter" junk.com.au> wrote:
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>>> "Paul Corfield" dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message>
>>news:fpvi541uhcn1d35qrtnaglej1qnhta01pf@ 4ax.com... >
>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT), thagor2...@ googlemail.com
>>> wrote: >
>>>>Anyone know?
>
>>> It's the minimum fare at that station - £1 outside Z1 and £1.50 in Z1.
>
>>
>>> -- ...
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