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Author: Paul Scott
Date: Jul 10, 2008 08:29

The Railway Magazine is suggesting this month, in a small piece on p11,
that:

"Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."

This would seem on the face of it to conflict completely with the Route
plan, which has platform 20 back in use by SWT this December, [in fact SWT
have had a trains in there a few weeks ago looking at signal sighting etc]
and the other 4 platforms returned to use during the next control period, ie
2009 to 2014.

Now there is obviously room in the undercroft for retail, especially if the
main concourse is reduced in depth at the suburban end, but is there any
real likelihood of the suggestion above occuring? Or are they talking about
'air rights'?

Paul S
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Author: D7666
Date: Jul 10, 2008 13:00

On Jul 10, 4:29 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:
> The Railway Magazine is suggesting this month, in a small piece on p11,
> that:
>
> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."

Do they quote a source ?

--
Nick
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Author: Paul Scott
Date: Jul 10, 2008 13:16

"D7666" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42cbbe54-8307-46f5-aeda-72b16e71c265@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 10, 4:29 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> The Railway Magazine is suggesting this month, in a small piece on p11,
>> that:
>>
>> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
>> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."
>
>
> Do they quote a source ?
>

No - but I wonder if they might be couple of few years out of date on this!

Paul
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Author: D7666
Date: Jul 10, 2008 14:18

On Jul 10, 9:16 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:
>>> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
>>> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."

IMHO there would already have been wider reporting of this matter if
it were true, given the lag from press to print, and the way things
leak these days, so I'll go along with them being out of date for now.

--
Nick
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Author: kytelly
Date: Jul 13, 2008 01:53

D7666 wrote:
> On Jul 10, 9:16 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
>>>> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."
>
>
>
> IMHO there would already have been wider reporting of this matter if
> it were true, given the lag from press to print, and the way things
> leak these days, so I'll go along with them being out of date for now.

http://www.elizabethhouseredevelopment.com/scheme_design.html
latest views on one side of the redevelopment

IMHO they look quite good but the buildings are going to be very tall
and they will really change the skyline around there
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Author: rannochmoor
Date: Jul 13, 2008 06:32

On Jul 10, 9:16 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:
> "D7666" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42cbbe54-8307-46f5-aeda-72b16e71c265@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> On Jul 10, 4:29 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> The Railway Magazine is suggesting this month, in a small piece on p11,
>>> that:
>
>>> "Contrary to previously announced plans, it is now understood that the
>>> Eurostar platforms and trainshed may be turned into a shopping mall."
>
>> Do they quote a source ?
>
> No - but I wonder if they might be couple of few years out of date on this!
>
> Paul ...
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Author: Roland Perry
Date: Jul 13, 2008 07:11

In message
<2d9f99d2-82fa-417c-a22d-90962456b656@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, at
06:32:07 on Sun, 13 Jul 2008, rannochmoor@btinternet.com remarked:
>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>capital?

Isn't the new development to the north of the station? And this is the
station where the light is so bright no-one can read the hi-tech
departure boards?
>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>back of plans?

They'll slow it down, for sure. And a 50:50 chance that a huge 1930's
type recession means it's actually turned into a soup kitchen.
--
Roland Perry
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Author: Peter Masson
Date: Jul 13, 2008 07:26

btinternet.com> wrote
>
>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>capital?
>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>back of plans?

Among the ideas for Waterloo is extending track back into the concourse, as
part of a 10-car scheme for suburban services, and constructing a new
concourse at undercroft level. If this is likely to happen, it would not be
a good move to extend the existing main concourse over then low level E*
concourse.

Peter
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Author: Arthur Figgis
Date: Jul 13, 2008 09:21

Roland Perry wrote:
> In message
> <2d9f99d2-82fa-417c-a22d-90962456b656@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, at
> 06:32:07 on Sun, 13 Jul 2008, rannochmoor@btinternet.com remarked:
>> Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>> concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>> capital?
>
> Isn't the new development to the north of the station? And this is the
> station where the light is so bright no-one can read the hi-tech
> departure boards?

That's more or less solved now.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
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Author: Paul Scott
Date: Jul 13, 2008 11:31

"Peter Masson" privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> btinternet.com> wrote
>>
>>Surely the big worry is the construction of office space above the
>>concourse cutting light to one of the grandest stations in the
>>capital?
>>But will the current economic climate lead to a revision or scaling
>>back of plans?
>
> Among the ideas for Waterloo is extending track back into the concourse,
> as
> part of a 10-car scheme for suburban services, and constructing a new
> concourse at undercroft level. If this is likely to happen, it would not
> be
> a good move to extend the existing main concourse over then low level E*
> concourse.
>
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