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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: May 25, 2008 06:49
"Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for London's
buses once the agreement ends later this year. The mayor of London said
half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which
was also funded by the deal, would still be honoured. Mr Johnson said he
thought many Londoners were uncomfortable with how the scheme was funded."
Always seemed a bit odd to me...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7419227.stm
Paul
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: May 25, 2008 15:33
On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:49:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
btinternet.com> wrote:
>"Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for London's
>buses once the agreement ends later this year. The mayor of London said
>half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which
>was also funded by the deal, would still be honoured. Mr Johnson said he
>thought many Londoners were uncomfortable with how the scheme was funded."
>
>Always seemed a bit odd to me...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7419227.stm
Applause.
Livingstone has said "It shows that he [Johnson] is more interested in
pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda..."
True, if pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda is dismantling the
policies you implemented to pursue your left-wing ideological
agenda...
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Author: MIGMIG Date: May 25, 2008 15:49
On May 25, 11:33 pm, James Farrar gmail.com> wrote:> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:49:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
>
> btinternet.com> wrote:>>"Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for London's
>>buses once the agreement ends later this year. The mayor of London said
>>half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which
>>was also funded by the deal, would still be honoured. Mr Johnson said he
>>thought many Londoners were uncomfortable with how the scheme was funded."
>
>>Always seemed a bit odd to me...
>
>
> Applause.
>
> Livingstone has said "It shows that he [Johnson] is more interested in
> pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda..."
>
> True, if pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda is dismantling the ...
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Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: May 25, 2008 17:43
On Sun, 25 May 2008, MIG wrote:
> On May 25, 11:33 pm, James Farrar gmail.com> wrote:>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:49:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
>>
>> btinternet.com> wrote:>>> "Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for London's
>>> buses once the agreement ends later this year."
>>
>> Livingstone has said "It shows that he [Johnson] is more interested in
>> pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda..."
>>
>> True, if pursuing his right-wing ideological agenda is dismantling the
>> policies you implemented to pursue your left-wing ideological
>> agenda...
>
> Please explain how Ken Livingstone had a left-wing political agenda that
> included joining New Labour, advocating strike-breaking, privatising
> part of LU etc etc.
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Author: Tom BarryTom Barry Date: May 26, 2008 00:39
Tom Anderson wrote:
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> Which part of LU did he privatise? I take it you're not referring to the
> PPP, which he fought tooth and nail.
A number of people on the left (the very hard left, this is) see the
closure of the ELL and its incorporate into a privately operated London
Overground as a privatisation. I don't, particularly, because it's a
good idea and you have to set it against the fact that greater public
control applies on the rest of LO, the creation of which is hardly a
right-wing act.
>> Boris Johnson has an unashamedly right-wing agenda. Ken Livingstone
>> had a conveniently-acquired right-wing agenda, occasionally regressing
>> when his conscience got the better of him.
I'm not sure Boris' agenda matters here. For instance, his Routemaster
spiel is mostly lifted from a 2005 report edited by the genuine right
wing ideologue Dean Godson, who has the distinction of being...
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: May 26, 2008 01:32
On Mon, 26 May 2008 08:39:19 +0100, Tom Barry blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>doubling bus and tram fares for the poor is apparently perfectly OK
From the BBC article cited in the first post of the thread:
"The mayor of London said half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000
Londoners on income support, which were also funded by the deal, would
still be honoured."
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Author: Paul CorfieldPaul Corfield Date: May 26, 2008 01:37
On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:33:28 +0100, James Farrar
gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:49:12 +0100, "Paul Scott"
> btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>"Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for London's
>>buses once the agreement ends later this year. The mayor of London said
>>half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income support, which
>>was also funded by the deal, would still be honoured. Mr Johnson said he
>>thought many Londoners were uncomfortable with how the scheme was funded."
>>
>>Always seemed a bit odd to me...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7419227.stm>
>Applause.
What - for sneaking out a controversial announcement, that will double
fares for the poorest people, in the middle of a bank holiday weekend
hoping people wouldn't notice?
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: May 26, 2008 01:44
In message 4ax.com>, at 09:37:55 on
Mon, 26 May 2008, Paul Corfield dsl.pipex.com> remarked:>What - for sneaking out a controversial announcement, that will double
>fares for the poorest people, in the middle of a bank holiday weekend
>hoping people wouldn't notice?
Whose fares are going to double? Not these ones obviously:
"The mayor of London said half-price bus and tram fares for
250,000 Londoners on income support, which were also funded by
the deal, would still be honoured."
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Roland Perry
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Author: Graham JGraham J Date: May 26, 2008 01:51
> "Boris Johnson will not renew anwith which provides cheap fuel for
> London's buses once the agreement ends later this year. The mayor of
> London said half-price bus and tram fares for 250,000 Londoners on income
> support, which was also funded by the deal, would still be honoured. Mr
> Johnson said he thought many Londoners were uncomfortable with how the
> scheme was funded."
>
> Always seemed a bit odd to me...
Indeed, though I've always also been uncomfortable with the use of the
funding as I don't think it is TfL's place to be involved in the benefits
system.
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Author: Tom BarryTom Barry Date: May 26, 2008 03:02
Roland Perry wrote:
> In message 4ax.com>, at 09:37:55 on
> Mon, 26 May 2008, Paul Corfield dsl.pipex.com> remarked:>> What - for sneaking out a controversial announcement, that will double
>> fares for the poorest people, in the middle of a bank holiday weekend
>> hoping people wouldn't notice?
>
> Whose fares are going to double? Not these ones obviously:
>
> "The mayor of London said half-price bus and tram fares for
> 250,000 Londoners on income support, which were also funded by
> the deal, would still be honoured."
Bad BBC reporting, I'm afraid. They missed out 'until the deal
expires'. If you read the rest of the article you find this bit from
the horse's mouth:
"He [MBJ] added: "We will continue to offer the half-priced travel
concession to Londoners on income support for the duration for which the
deal was originally planned".
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