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Author: Richard Dixon
Date: Jul 6, 2008 07:48

Maybe I should have said "busy-ness" and not business, but just wondering
if anyone knew of any websites that detailed how busy trains are coming in
to central London from suburbs?

I am thinking of moving further outward but wondering, aside from actually
waiting at various train platforms in the rush-hour, as to how full trains
are on their approach to London?

For people looking for a longer commuter from more rural areas, I would
have thought "getting a seat on the train" is paramount, and I would have
thought there'd be some sort of resource to help with this somewhere on the
web?

Thanks in advance for any information !
Richard
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Author: Rupert Candy
Date: Jul 6, 2008 09:03

On Jul 6, 3:48 pm, Richard Dixon yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Maybe I should have said "busy-ness" and not business, but just wondering
> if anyone knew of any websites that detailed how busy trains are coming in
> to central London from suburbs?
>
> I am thinking of moving further outward but wondering, aside from actually
> waiting at various train platforms in the rush-hour, as to how full trains
> are on their approach to London?

This group (and uk.railway) is probably as good a resource as any - if
you indicate which direction away from London you're thinking of,
there's bound to be someone on here who's done it/currently does it...

[uk.r added]
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Date: Jul 6, 2008 09:38

Richard Dixon yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:Xns9AD3A0DC876A7rdngemailyahoocouk@69.16.176.253:
> Maybe I should have said "busy-ness" and not business, but just
> wondering if anyone knew of any websites that detailed how busy trains
> are coming in to central London from suburbs?
>
> I am thinking of moving further outward but wondering, aside from
> actually waiting at various train platforms in the rush-hour, as to
> how full trains are on their approach to London?
>
> For people looking for a longer commuter from more rural areas, I
> would have thought "getting a seat on the train" is paramount, and I
> would have thought there'd be some sort of resource to help with this
> somewhere on the web?
>
> Thanks in advance for any information !
> Richard
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Author: Richard Dixon
Date: Jul 6, 2008 11:16

David Jackman wrote in
news:Xns9AD3B3887AD03309E3129replytogroup@216.196.109.145:
> Neither is distance a guarantee of a seat - I understand that people
> are regularly standing between Waterloo and Winchester...
>
> Which part of London do you have to get to (if you are planning a long
> distance commuter that last thing you want is a long journey from your
> London terminal)?

Thanks for the reply

Seeing as I work "in the city" then I was looking at commuting to Liverpool
Street or Fenchurch Street - purely overland with no second "stage" to my
commute post London terminal.

Broxbourne appealed as it is very close to some nice rural villages and yet
has an excellent train service (29 mins to Liv Street) but absolutely no
way of telling how full trains will be (coming from Stanstead Airport,
Cambridge or Kings Lynn).

Cheers
Richard
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Author: Roland Perry
Date: Jul 6, 2008 12:00

In message , at
18:16:32 on Sun, 6 Jul 2008, Richard Dixon yahoo.co.uk>
remarked:
>Broxbourne appealed as it is very close to some nice rural villages and yet
>has an excellent train service (29 mins to Liv Street) but absolutely no
>way of telling how full trains will be (coming from Stanstead Airport,
>Cambridge or Kings Lynn).

That line has the second most overcrowded train in the country (7.18
Cambridge to Liverpool St). 85%% overcapacity. [2007 figures].
--
Roland Perry
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Date: Jul 6, 2008 12:17

Richard Dixon yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:Xns9AD3C415DB4DArdngemailyahoocouk@69.16.176.253:
> David Jackman wrote in
> news:Xns9AD3B3887AD03309E3129replytogroup@216.196.109.145:
>
>> Neither is distance a guarantee of a seat - I understand that people
>> are regularly standing...
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Author: Ken at Birchanger
Date: Jul 6, 2008 12:34

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:00:23 +0100, Roland Perry perry.co.uk>
wrote:
>That line has the second most overcrowded train in the country (7.18
>Cambridge to Liverpool St). 85%% overcapacity. [2007 figures].

I can't remember what, but there was something wrong with that
'statistic'. Train was only four cars that dfay, or something.

Trains from Cambridge are just about full by Broxbourne during the
meorning peak. Of course, getting a seat on the way home requires
turning up a few minutes before departure.

But I would imagine that trains from Hertford East have space, and
there are some peak hour services that start at Broxbourne.

In general trains from Stansted Airport (there's no second bloody A in
Stansted!) do not stop at Broxbourne other than the Stratford service.
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Author: Richard Dixon
Date: Jul 6, 2008 13:05

Ken at Birchanger birchanger.com> wrote in
news:sa7274thk0a7iuv752li7qm4ee0h11pitd@4ax.com:
> But I would imagine that trains from Hertford East have space, and
> there are some peak hour services that start at Broxbourne.

I presume you mean "have space" as in "have seats"? Standing space is all
very well, but not for 35 minutes every day - maybe I've led a charmed
commuter life so far.

Regarding the peak hour services, checking the Hertford East to Broxbourne
timetable, there are trains that "appear" to start at Broxbourne:

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia.com/content/download/8985/84230/file/T
able+4+Hertford+East+to+Liverpool+Street.pdf

For example at 0804, 0818 and 0835 - but checking other timetables, these
appear to start at Kings Lynn, Cambridge and Cambridge again, respectively,
so I can't seem to find these mystery ones that start at Broxbourne (that
would be like gold dust for a commute!!)
> In general trains from Stansted Airport do not stop at Broxbourne other
> than the Stratford service.

Good point, I'd not noticed this, thanks.

Richard
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Author: Richard Dixon
Date: Jul 6, 2008 13:07

David Jackman wrote in
news:Xns9AD3CE56CF25C309E3129replytogroup@216.196.109.145:
> (The best advice here is of course to wait until September
> when everybody is back at work, get up early, fork out
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Date: Jul 6, 2008 14:20

Richard Dixon yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
news:Xns9AD3D68971C37rdngemailyahoocouk@69.16.176.253:
> Ken at Birchanger birchanger.com> wrote in
> news:sa7274thk0a7iuv752li7qm4ee0h11pitd@4ax.com:
>
>> But I would imagine that trains from Hertford East have space, and
>> there are some peak hour...
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