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Author: Ian JelfIan Jelf Date: May 8, 2008 08:52
Further to recent discussions about people taking an interest in buses,
trains, etc. getting "hassle" from the authorities, yesterday evening I
had an interesting, non-transport-related variant which I hope will
nonetheless be of interest to people on utl and ur.
I was getting ready for a guided walk for a private group around St.
Pancras and Camden, starting at Mornington Crescent tube. Whenever I
get the chance, I always walk the route shortly before actually "doing"
the tour, just to make sure nothing untoward has "developed" since my
last visit, refresh my memory and so on.
Now one of the places I go to is the former burial ground of Saint
Martin-in-the-Fields which is perversely just South of Camden Town tube,
between Camden Street and Baynham Street. The burial ground has long
since been converted to a (rather charming and well-used) local park and
was pretty busy when I walked through at about 4.30pm. As I was
leaving, I was stopped by two PCSOs and asked what my business there
was. Surprised at being asked, I was staggered when they said that
their grounds for suspicion was that I was carrying.......an umbrella!
Now it's a bit of a trademark of the walking tours I do that I always
have a brolly. Sometimes in crowded places or with biggish groups it
can be a good marker and it's become a bit of a "prop" I suppose...
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: May 8, 2008 09:06
Ian Jelf bluebadge.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:
> An interesting footnote to this is that later on while waiting to meet
> the group in front of Mornington Crescent tube, one Ken Livingstone
> emerged and turned off towards Camden High Street and the statue of
> Richard Cobden!
He didn't take advantage of his new-found spare time to join the tour,
then?
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Author: David HansenDavid Hansen Date: May 8, 2008 09:19
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:52:43 +0100 someone who may be Ian Jelf
bluebadge.demon.co.uk> wrote this:-
>As I was
>leaving, I was stopped by two PCSOs and asked what my business there
>was.
It was none of their business.
>Surprised at being asked, I was staggered when they said that
>their grounds for suspicion was that I was carrying.......an umbrella!
It's good to see that there is so little crime in Camden these days
that these semi-police officers have time to waste in this way. They
must have been bored as they had no crime to deal with.
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Author: James FarrarJames Farrar Date: May 8, 2008 09:32
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:52:43 +0100, Ian Jelf
bluebadge.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I was stopped by two PCSOs
Ah, plasticops. I suppose they have to do something to justify their
salaries...
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Author: Paul CorfieldPaul Corfield Date: May 8, 2008 10:00
On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:52:43 +0100, Ian Jelf bluebadge.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>Further to recent discussions about people taking an interest in buses,
>trains, etc. getting "hassle" from the authorities, yesterday evening I
>had an interesting, non-transport-related variant which...
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Author: rannochmoorrannochmoor Date: May 8, 2008 10:08
On May 8, 6:00Â pm, Paul Corfield dsl.pipex.com> wrote:> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:52:43 +0100, Ian Jelf bluebadge.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Further to recent discussions about people taking an interest in buses,
>>trains, etc. getting "hassle" from the authorities, yesterday evening I
>>had an interesting, non-transport-related variant which I hope will
>>nonetheless be of interest to people on utl and ur.
>
>>I was getting ready for a guided walk for a private group around St.
>>Pancras and Camden, starting at Mornington Crescent tube. Â Whenever I
>>get the chance, I always walk the route shortly before actually "doing"
>>the tour, just to make sure nothing untoward has "developed" since my
>>last visit, refresh my memory and so on.
>
>>Now one of the places I go to is the former burial ground of Saint
>>Martin-in-the-Fields which is perversely just South of Camden Town tube,
>>between Camden Street and Baynham Street. Â The burial ground has long ...
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Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: May 8, 2008 10:11
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Paul Corfield wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:52:43 +0100, Ian Jelf bluebadge.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>> Further to recent discussions about people taking an interest in buses,
>> trains, etc. getting "hassle" from the authorities, yesterday evening I
>> had an interesting, non-transport-related variant which I hope will
>> nonetheless be of interest to people on utl and ur.
>
> Alternatively next time this happens - as it surely will - you can pull
> the cap off the brolley and fatally stab them with the poison tip and
> then make good your escape ;-)
Paul, it's absurd, insulting, and unhelpful to suggest that Ian has a
poison-tipped or otherwise lethal umbrella.
We all know it's an exploding blue badge he's got.
tom
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Got a revolution behind my eyes - We got to get up and organise
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Author: Tom AndersonTom Anderson Date: May 8, 2008 10:28
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Ian Jelf wrote:
> As I was leaving, I was stopped by two PCSOs and asked what my business
> there was. Surprised at being asked, I was staggered when they said
> that their grounds for suspicion was that I was carrying.......an
> umbrella!
Well, the events in Stockwell did establish that the police are quite
touchy when it comes to unseasonable gear.
Perhaps you should equip yourself with a parasol instead?
> Now it's a bit of a trademark of the walking tours I do that I always
> have a brolly. Sometimes in crowded places or with biggish groups it
> can be a good marker and it's become a bit of a "prop" I suppose.
I was in Madrid with some friends at the weekend. One of them took hold of
the guidebook and proceeded to lead us on a tour round the city, whether
we liked it or not. He was quickly dubbed 'umbrella man'.
> An interesting footnote to this is that later on while waiting to meet
> the group in front of Mornington Crescent tube, one Ken Livingstone
> emerged and turned off towards Camden High Street and the statue of
> Richard Cobden!
Ah, maybe it was him they were after?
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Author: Arthur FiggisArthur Figgis Date: May 8, 2008 10:52
Ian Jelf wrote:
> Further to recent discussions about people taking an interest in buses,
> trains, etc. getting "hassle" from the authorities, yesterday evening I
> had an interesting, non-transport-related variant which I hope will
> nonetheless be of interest to people on utl and ur.
>
> I was getting ready for a guided walk for a private group around St.
> Pancras and Camden, starting at Mornington Crescent tube. Whenever I
> get the chance, I always walk the route shortly before actually "doing"
> the tour, just to make sure nothing untoward has "developed" since my
> last visit, refresh my memory and so on.
>
> Now one of the places I go to is the former burial ground of Saint
> Martin-in-the-Fields which is perversely just South of Camden Town tube,
> between Camden Street and Baynham Street. The burial ground has long
> since been converted to a (rather charming and well-used) local park and
> was pretty busy when I walked through at about 4.30pm. As I was
> leaving, I was stopped by two PCSOs and asked what my business there
> was. Surprised at being asked, I was staggered when they said that
> their grounds for suspicion was that I was carrying.......an umbrella! ...
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Author: The Real DoctorThe Real Doctor Date: May 8, 2008 11:19
On 8 May, 16:52, Ian Jelf bluebadge.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> One other rather baffling remark
> from the female PCSO when I expressed surprise about this was that " a
> lot of children use this park". Evidently carrying an umbrella in warm
> weather and being in possession of a London Tourist Board Blue Badge
> must be a sure sign of paedophilia.
"Think of the children"
It's the great unanswerable. Well, one of them, alongside "health and
safety".
Ian
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