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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Mwmbwls
Date: Jan 22, 2008 04:09

On Jan 22, 11:59 am, Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 4:40 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
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>> "Mwmbwls" virgin.net> wrote in message
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>>> Local MP's expressed their frustration at the Government's apparent
>>> inability to come up with a seamless solution to Eurostars withdrawel
>>> from Waterloo - they also pressed for the rebuilding of Clapham
>>> Junction.  Airtrack I suspect will also be contingent on resolving
>>> these bottlenecks but that was not mentioned. Should all three
>>> projects should been combined in a Thameslink style Masterplan? ...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Peter Masson
Date: Jan 22, 2008 06:15

"Mwmbwls" virgin.net> wrote
> Clapham Junction will have its own 39-storey twin towers, if an
> ambitious project gets the go-ahead.
> As well as the skyscapers developers are also planning a two-floor
> shopping plaza and a face...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Jan 22, 2008 06:55

Peter Masson wrote:
> "Mwmbwls" virgin.net> wrote
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>> Clapham Junction will have its own 39-storey twin towers, if an
>> ambitious project gets the go-ahead.
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> I hope the plans will allow properly for future train services. For
> example, will Crossrail 2 serve Clapham Junction, and if so, which
> platforms? Will there be 3 or 4 tracks for the SWML fast trains, and
> will platform 7 be made more suitable for them, peraps with 8 made
> reversible? Will platform lengths be increased, e.g. to 10 car on the
> SWML Slow Lines, the Windsor Lines, and the Brighton Slow Lines, and
> longer than 12 (16, with provision to use the International platforms
> at Waterloo?) for platforms 7, 8 and 9? Will the Watford to Clapham
> Junction service continue to run beyond Clapham Junction...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Peter Masson
Date: Jan 22, 2008 08:08

"Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:NqWdnblj6t9GngvaRVnyvgA@bt.com...
> Peter Masson wrote:
>> "Mwmbwls" virgin.net> wrote
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>>> Clapham Junction will have its own 39-storey twin towers, if an
>>> ambitious project gets the go-ahead.
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>> I hope the plans will allow properly for future train services.
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> Great list of problems with the actual station Peter, but I suspect having
> read the article these proposals are yet another of those 'air rights'
> sales, and nothing much to do with operational use of the station.
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> One point though, is that Crossrail probably won't serve CJ, the published
> protected alignment is to take over the District Line from Parsons Green
to
> Wimbledon...
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Even an air rights scheme needs to take account of future needs at platform ...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Mwmbwls
Date: Jan 22, 2008 09:15

On Jan 22, 4:08 pm, "Peter Masson" privacy.net> wrote:
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> Even an air rights scheme needs to take account of future needs at platform
> level. Unless there is intention to use skyhooks technology someone needs to
> decide where to put the columns which will hold the buildings up.
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> I thought one option for Crossrail 2 was to run Wimbledon - East Putney -
> Wandsworth Town - Clapham Junction before tunnelling to Chelsea and on to
> Hackney, and I hadn't heard that this option had been abandoned.
>
Bang on as usual Peter. Now if only there were recognised expert media
savvy commentators - perhaps even a journalist or two - with extensive
industry and political contacts capable of drawing the necessarily
simple picture for every MP and Councillor in the Exeter - Eastbourne
...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Graeme Wall
Date: Jan 22, 2008 09:56

In message v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:

[snip]
> Now if only there were recognised expert media
> savvy commentators - perhaps even a journalist or two - with extensive
> industry and political contacts capable of drawing the necessarily
> simple picture for every MP and Councillor in the Exeter - Eastbourne
> - Westminster Triangle. They could point out the window of
> opportunity and the need for getting the fundamentals right. If only
> there were candidates for Mayor who could see the scope for major
> improvements in south London's infrastructure as being a vote winner.
> If only they were subscribers to this group .....if only.........

You think Ken Livingstone might subscribe to this group?

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Mwmbwls
Date: Jan 22, 2008 10:16

On Jan 22, 5:56 pm, Graeme Wall greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
>           Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:
>> If only
>> there were candidates for Mayor who could see the scope for major
>> improvements in south London's infrastructure as being a vote winner.
>> If only they were subscribers to this group .....if only.........
>
> You think Ken Livingstone might subscribe to this group?
>
Hard to tell - On this group from time to time there are proposals for
outrageous public expenditure followed by snappy vituperative
exchanges. No - on reflection I think he'd fit right in :-)
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Graeme Wall
Date: Jan 22, 2008 10:53

In message <54418b31-c818-4317-a249-00b6a0d3fd39@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 5:56
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jan 22, 2008 17:03

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Wall wrote:
> In message <54418b31-c818-4317-a249-00b6a0d3fd39@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
> Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:
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>> On Jan 22, 5:56 pm, Graeme Wall greywall.demon.co.uk...
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Re: The Pig in the Python - rebuilding Clapham Junction         


Author: Mwmbwls
Date: Jan 23, 2008 00:08

On 22 Jan, 18:53, Graeme Wall greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <54418b31-c818-4317-a249-00b6a0d3f...@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
>           Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:
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>> On Jan 22, 5:56 pm, Graeme Wall greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Boris, on the other hand...

Well the group does have an expert understanding of the aromatic
armpit implications of PIXC as does the honourable Member for Henley -
We are virulent critics of the gouging of commuters by TOC as does
etc.... We also suffer from outbreaks of rampant nostalgia as does the
honourable member as he looks in vain for a guards van to transport
his bike. Yes - he'll fit in as well - we are, after all, a Broad-
Gauge Church.
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