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Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Colin Rosenstiel
Date: Mar 2, 2008 17:03

I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some time
soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return be valid to
there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?

Alternatively, will it be valid to Farringdon to reduce my cycling
distance if I can't go all the way? I ask that because I am told by a
ticket holder that Cambridge-London Terminals seasons at least are valid
to Moorgate via Farringdon.

--
Colin Rosenstiel
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Mr Thant
Date: Mar 2, 2008 17:17

On 3 Mar, 01:03, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
> I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some time
> soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return be valid to
> there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?

No. See page A4:
http://www.atoc.org/retail/_downloads/NFM98/NFM98_Common_A.pdf

"In addition London Terminals fares are NOT valid if travelling beyond
St. Pancras International from the north or beyond City Thameslink
from the south."
> Alternatively, will it be valid to Farringdon to reduce my cycling
> distance if I can't go all the way? I ask that because I am told by a
> ticket holder that Cambridge-London Terminals seasons at least are valid
> to Moorgate via Farringdon.

Yes they are, but you're not allowed to use Thameslink services, and
you're not allowed out at Farringdon. See page L5:
http://www.atoc.org/retail/_downloads/NFM98/NFM98_Common_L.pdf

"between Kings Cross St Pancras Und and Moorgate (via Circle,
Metropolitan, Hammersmith & City and Northern Lines) but
intermediately at Old Street ONLY"
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Colin Rosenstiel
Date: Mar 2, 2008 18:25

In article
<594fb854-c241-4061-b0bf-8ee10293fffb@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
maha.thray.sithu.u.thant@googlemail.com (Mr Thant) wrote:
> On 3 Mar, 01:03, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>> I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some
time
>> soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return be valid to
>> there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?
>
> No. See page A4:
> http://www.atoc.org/retail/_downloads/NFM98/NFM98_Common_A.pdf
>
> "In addition London Terminals fares are NOT valid if travelling beyond
> St. Pancras International from the north or beyond City Thameslink
> from the south."
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Mar 2, 2008 18:56

On 3 Mar, 02:25, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
> In article
> <594fb854-c241-4061-b0bf-8ee10293f...@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
> maha.thray.sithu.u.th...@googlemail.com (Mr Thant) wrote:
>
>> On 3 Mar, 01:03, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel...
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Colin Rosenstiel
Date: Mar 3, 2008 08:13

In article
<7053d15e-7dfc-4f86-a573-ea00fcc08d27@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
mizter.t@gmail.com (Mizter T) wrote:
> On 3 Mar, 02:25, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>
>> In article
>>
> <594fb854-c241-4061-b0bf-8ee10293f...@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
>> maha.thray.sithu.u.th...@googlemail.com...
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: hounslow3
Date: Mar 3, 2008 12:45

"Mizter T" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7053d15e-7dfc-4f86-a573-ea00fcc08d27@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> I think one problem is that ticket office staff are not always au fait
> with the rules themselves - there have been many past tales here and
> on uk.railway of people being sold the wrong ticket, including (IIRC
> Southern) ticket machines issuing them with the wrong destination
> despite the right request being made!
>
> Furthermore even if you have the wrong ticket it might not ever have
> got flagged up at the ticket gates - past posts have suggested that
> the ticket gates at Kings Cross Thameslink were programmed very
> liberally, given the shear variety of ticket types they could feasibly
> encounter (an issue that has perhaps been transferred over to St
> Pancras...
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Paul Oter
Date: Mar 3, 2008 13:19

On Mar 3, 4:13 pm, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
> In article
> <7053d15e-7dfc-4f86-a573-ea00fcc08...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> mizte...@gmail.com (Mizter T) wrote:
>> On 3 Mar, 02:25, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>
>>> In article
>
>> <594fb854-c241-4061-b0bf-8ee10293f...@60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
>>> maha.thray.sithu.u.th...@googlemail.com (Mr Thant) wrote:
>
>>>> On 3 Mar, 01:03, rosenst...@cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>
>>>>> I have to make a visit to FCC's central lost property office some
>>>>> time soon. Will my Cambridge-London Terminals cheap day return
>>>>> be valid to there (City Thameslink) via St Pancras International?
> ...
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Mar 3, 2008 13:59

On 3 Mar, 21:19, Paul Oter googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> As some may know, I have Cambridge - London Terminals season ticket
> and commute daily to Moorgate, using LU between KX and Moorgate.
>
> I can confirm my ticket gets rejected by the gates at Barbican and
> Farringdon (on the occasions when I tried that I used my pre-pay
> Oyster instead to leave the station: that was in the days when you
> weren't penalised for an unresolved journey).

If I had such a ticket I would certainly have tested the gates as you
had done out of pure curiosity! You can of course perform such tests
if you are also in possession of a Day Travelcard or even an LU single
printed ticket - indeed you could also do so if you were willing to
take the £4 unresolved journey 'penalty' (though technically given
that the National Rail ticket isn't valid at intermediate one would be
breaking the strict letter of the rules).
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Mar 3, 2008 14:14

hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> "Mizter T" gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think one problem is that ticket office staff are not always au fait
>> with the rules themselves - there have been many past tales here and
>> on uk...
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Re: Thameslink/FCC ticket validity question again         


Author: johnnyburke02
Date: Mar 3, 2008 16:31

> The all important sentence from the National Fares Manual is this...
>
> "In addition London Terminals fares are NOT valid if travelling beyond
> St. Pancras International from the north or beyond City Thameslink
> from the south."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So can I get a priv ticket from Radlett to Farringdon, or would I need
to get out at St Pancras International, surrender the ticket, then use
the oyster for the rest of the journey?

Burkey
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