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Author: Boltar
Date: Oct 29, 2006 01:49

Does anyone have any info on this new transit system at terminal 5?
The info on the web is little more than 6 trains, moving block
signalling, links
various buildings, 15 ton trains. I assume since it has signalling its
going
to be a "proper" railway unlike gatwicks transit which is just 2 trains
going up and down their own dedicated tracks. Is it circular? How deep
are the tunnels? Will it be in the tube/hex station or will it have its
own
station? Anyone know?

B2003
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Author: Paul Scott
Date: Oct 29, 2006 02:42

"Boltar" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1162111789.492005.147260@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Does anyone have any info on this new transit system at terminal 5?
> The info on the web is little more than 6 trains, moving block
> signalling, links
> various buildings, 15 ton trains. I assume since it has signalling its
> going
> to be a "proper" railway unlike gatwicks transit which is just 2 trains
> going up and down their own dedicated tracks. Is it circular? How deep
> are the tunnels? Will it be in the tube/hex station or will it have its
> own
> station? Anyone know?
>
> B2003
>
I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway! ...
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: John Rowland
Date: Oct 29, 2006 03:09

Paul Scott wrote:
>
> looks just like a bus to me - the large rubber tyres being
> the biggest giveaway!

Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: Olof Lagerkvist
Date: Oct 29, 2006 03:15

John Rowland wrote:
> Paul Scott wrote:
>
>>looks just like a bus to me - the large rubber tyres being
>>the biggest giveaway!
>
>
> Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
> Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.

...via the Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross? :)

--
Olof Lagerkvist
ICQ: 724451
Web: http://here.is/olof
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: phil.george999
Date: Oct 31, 2006 10:38

> I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
> the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
> the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
> is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
> to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway!

Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
in Paris? Those
trains have rubber tyres.

Phil
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: Stephen Farrow
Date: Oct 31, 2006 17:41

phil.george999@gmail.com wrote:
>> I think its more like the internal system at Stansted that takes you from
>> the departure/arrival areas out to the piers. There is a picture of one of
>> the 'trains' being craned down an access shaft in Modern Rail this month. It
>> is referred to as a 'tracked transit system (TTS)' but looks just like a bus
>> to me - the large rubber tyres being the biggest giveaway!
>
>
> Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
> in Paris? Those
> trains have rubber tyres.

As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.

--

Stephen

Rory: What does a stroke feel like?
Lorelai: I dunno. Bad.
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: alex_t
Date: Nov 1, 2006 03:27

>> Damn, I was trying to think of a way to combine it with the Thameslink
>> Moorgate branch and the Aldwych Shuttle.
>
> ...via the Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross? :)

He-he... you are both wrong! ;-)

Aldwych tunnels should be used by new combined Hammersmith&City/Circle
service, which should be named Spiral and should go
Hammersmith->Paddington->Edgware Road->Farrington->Liverpool
Street->Monument->Victoria->Bayswater->Edgware Road{another set of
platforms}->{Marylebone}->{Goodge Street}->Holborn->Aldwych
(new parts are in { } )
(and yes, I know this is impossible, because Holborn->Aldwych part is
tube and not subsurface...)

And Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross should be used by DLR.

OR

Another stupid suggestion would be to create "smaller Circle" of
Waterloo->Bank->Aldwych->Holborn->Green Park->Charing Cross->Waterloo,
which will include entire Waterloo&City line, and both Aldwych and
Jubilee platforms at Charing Cross :-P
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: Boltar
Date: Nov 1, 2006 08:50

Stephen Farrow wrote:
>> Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
>> in Paris? Those
>> trains have rubber tyres.
>
> As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.

Can't remember what the Paris metro is like but the Montreal one has a
bouncy unpleasent ride from what i remember. Not sure what the
advantage
the rubber tyres is (better on gradients?) but comfort doesnt' seem to
be one of them.

B2003
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Re: T5 transit system         


Author: Stephen Farrow
Date: Nov 1, 2006 09:42

Boltar wrote:
> Stephen Farrow wrote:
>
>>> Rubber tyres don't necessarily make it a bus. How about Metro line 1
>>> in Paris? Those
>>> trains have rubber tyres.
>> As do all four lines of the Montreal metro.
>
> Can't remember what the Paris metro is like but the Montreal one has a
> bouncy unpleasent ride from what i remember. Not sure what the
> advantage
> the rubber tyres is (better on gradients?) but comfort doesnt' seem to
> be one of them.

I don't remember the ride on the Montreal metro being bouncy or
unpleasant, though it's certainly different from the ride on
conventional steel-wheeled trains (you want bouncy and unpleasant, try
the Bury line on the Metrolink in Manchester).
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Author: davidmetzger0
Date: Nov 1, 2006 14:48

Maybe it could connect with Airtrain @ JFK?:)
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