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Network Rail plans for 32 Thameslink trains an hour
Filed 09/04/08

Up to 32 trains an hour will run between London and the south coast
along Thameslink routes by 2015, according to information contained
within Network Rail's newly published South London Route Utilisation
Strategy.

The RUS shows what timetable enhancements passengers can expect to see
from implementation of the £5.5bn Thameslink Programme, signed off by
the government last summer (Transport Briefing 24/07/07). It promises
new through-London services from towns including Maidstone, Tunbridge
Wells, East Grinstead and Horsham. However other places that were
expected to gain Thameslink services under the Thameslink 2000 plans
worked up by Network Rail's predecessor Railtrack, such as Dartford,
Eastbourne, Littlehampton, Ashford and Guildford, will not be included
on the new network. In order to reduce train crossovers, the current
Wimbledon loop services will no longer run through London, instead
terminating at Blackfriars.

On Apr 11, 10:22 am, Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:

I never understood why it was part of it in the first place.
Thameslink was supposed to be a north to south express route. Not a
north to obscure-suburb-in-sw-london local train. I mean why Sutton?
Why not Wandsworth or Dulwich or Chessington or ..... If anyone
suggested the northbound thameslink had a terminus at Barnet everyone
would laugh, but for some reason if its in south london no ones bats
an eyelid.

B2003

On 11 Apr, 10:53, Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

It's become an express route now, but at the time I think it was
envisaged to be away of avoiding turning round suburban services at
termini.

On Apr 11, 10:53 am, Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

You are right up to a point. Thameslink fused not only semi fasts
from Bedford,Luton and Saint Albans to Brighton etc but also locals
starting in the main at Saint Albans. Although many of these ran
through to Moorgate following the Old Widened lines train patterns -
some ran through to Blackfriars - going straight...

On 11 Apr, 10:22, Mwmbwls virgin.net> wrote:

Dare I suggest that the precise question of which franchisee actually
runs these services is of less interest to a whole host of other
issues, though I would thing it would be logical that the Sutton Loop
should be grouped together with the rest of the 'South London Metro'
routes rather than whoever runs the Thameslink routes.

On Apr 11, 11:14 am, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Boltar wrote:

It's got to be somewhere, hasn't it? If it was Chessington, you'd be
asking why not Sutton.

Er, you know that the Thameslink inners terminate at St Albans, right?
That's barely outside London.

tom

Mwmbwls wrote:

List edited for clarity:

On Apr 11, 3:58 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:

"Andy" gmail.com> wrote

It makes sense for the Wimbledon/Sutton Loop service to become
self-contained from Blackfriars. It will keep to the west side between
loughborough junction and the new bay platforms at Blackfriars, so will not
conflict with Thameslink at all. It also minimises conflicts at Tulse Hill.
Currently off-peak from London Bridge via the South London Line there are
2tph to Victoria via Denmark Hill. These will be diverted to start from
Bellingham.
2tph to Smitham via Crystal Palace
2tph to Beckenham Junction
2tph to West Croydon via Selhurst. These do conflict with Thameslink trains
between Tulse Hill and Streatham Junctions.
While Blackfriars may not be the ideal London terminus for all Wimbledon ...