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Author: MojoMojo Date: Jul 16, 2007 13:06
I've noticed by the "bay" of 4 seats near the front of the bus on
Mercedes Articulated buses there is a button which reminds me of the
door open buttons on mainline trains. They only seem to light up when
the bell has been pressed.
Does anyone know what they do?
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Author: Paul CorfieldPaul Corfield Date: Jul 16, 2007 13:19
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:06:26 GMT, Mojo SPAMTRAPgooglemail.com>
wrote:
>I've noticed by the "bay" of 4 seats near the front of the bus on
>Mercedes Articulated buses there is a button which reminds me of the
>door open buttons on mainline trains. They only seem to light up when
>the bell has been pressed.
>
>Does anyone know what they do?
Aren't they simply a bell push? This saves people having to stand up or
stretch to a push mounted on a vertical stanchion. I'm guessing but I
assume they illuminate to show that the bell has been pushed elsewhere
and there's no need to bother. One of the nicer design features on the
Citaros and better than the location of bell pushes on a number of UK
manufactured buses. The location of bell pushes should be one of those
things that is standardised on every bus [1] and yet bizarrely TfL seem
to leave to the bus companies to decide.
[1] try sitting on certain seats at the back of the lower deck on a
double decker and then finding a bell push!
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Jul 16, 2007 13:23
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:19:14 +0100, Paul Corfield
dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>[1] try sitting on certain seats at the back of the lower deck on a
>double decker and then finding a bell push!
There should at the very minimum be one on every pole and probably
more, preferably such that one can be reached from every seat without
standing, especially on the upper deck on rough roads! They're a
ridiculously cheap thing to skimp on.
Neil
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Author: MIGMIG Date: Jul 16, 2007 13:35
On Jul 16, 9:19 pm, Paul Corfield dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:06:26 GMT, Mojo SPAMTRAPgooglemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I've noticed by the "bay" of 4 seats near the front of the bus on
>>Mercedes Articulated buses there is a button which reminds me of the
>>door open buttons on mainline trains. They only seem to light up when
>>the bell has been pressed.
>
>>Does anyone know what they do?
>
> Aren't they simply a bell push? This saves people having to stand up or
> stretch to a push mounted on a vertical stanchion. I'm guessing but I
> assume they illuminate to show that the bell has been pushed elsewhere
> and there's no need to bother. One of the nicer design features on the
> Citaros and better than the location of bell pushes on a number of UK
> manufactured buses. The location of bell pushes should be one of those
> things that is standardised on every bus [1] and yet bizarrely TfL seem
> to leave to the bus companies to decide.
> ...
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Jul 16, 2007 13:41
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:35:01 -0700, MIG doreenbird.co.uk>
wrote:
>On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
>at the top of the stairs.
Some buses used to have a strip on each side reachable from every
seat. In that regard we've gone backwards...
Neil
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Author: Chris ReadChris Read Date: Jul 16, 2007 14:27
"MIG" wrote:
> On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
> at the top of the stairs.
>
> I assumed that this was to stop people finding one by their seat and
> being tempted to stay there, ie force them to already be on their way
> out rather than delay the bus at the stop.
In RM days, this was often inconvenient for conductors, stuck issuing
tickets at the front of the top deck. They sometimes resorted to two loud
taps, with metal clippers, on a suitable surface above the driver, as an
improvised 'ding ding'.
How much of a view they had of the platform from that position is a matter
of conjecture........
Chris
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Author: MIGMIG Date: Jul 16, 2007 14:39
On Jul 16, 10:27 pm, "Chris Read" btinternet.com> wrote:
> "MIG" wrote:
>> On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
>> at the top of the stairs.
>
>> I assumed that this was to stop people finding one by their seat and
>> being tempted to stay there, ie force them to already be on their way
>> out rather than delay the bus at the stop.
>
> In RM days, this was often inconvenient for conductors, stuck issuing
> tickets at the front of the top deck. They sometimes resorted to two loud
> taps, with metal clippers, on a suitable surface above the driver, as an
> improvised 'ding ding'.
>
> How much of a view they had of the platform from that position is a matter
> of conjecture........
>
> Chris
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Author: MIGMIG Date: Jul 16, 2007 14:40
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:35:01 -0700, MIG doreenbird.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
>>at the top of the stairs.
>
> Some buses used to have a strip on each side reachable from every
> seat. In that regard we've gone backwards...
>
> Neil
>
> --
> Neil Williams
> Put my first name before the at to reply.
I have seen those, but I don't remember seeing one on an upstairs.
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Author: Mark BraderMark Brader Date: Jul 16, 2007 15:13
M.I.G.:
>> On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
>> at the top of the stairs.
Neil Williams:
> Some buses used to have a strip on each side reachable from every
> seat. In that regard we've gone backwards...
In most North American city buses that I've used, there's been a cord
running the length of the bus on each side, typically through metal
loops at (or below) the upper corners of the main windows. So only two
electrical switches at the front of the bus are required. Depending on
the layout around the back doors, there may be a separate cord behind
the doors on that side, requiring just one more switch.
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Author: MaxBMaxB Date: Jul 16, 2007 15:13
"Chris Read" btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:V4CdnYTN-oEyfwbbRVnyuQA@bt.com...
>
> "MIG" wrote:
>
>> On the top deck of double deckers there used to only be one bell push,
>> at the top of the stairs.
>>
>> I assumed that this was to stop people finding one by their seat and
>> being tempted to stay there, ie force them to already be on their way
>> out rather than delay the bus at the stop.
>
> In RM days, this was often inconvenient for conductors, stuck issuing
> tickets at the front of the top deck. They sometimes resorted to two loud
> taps, with metal clippers, on a suitable surface above the driver, as an
> improvised 'ding ding'.
>
> How much of a view they had of the platform from that position is a matter
> of conjecture........
> ...
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