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Author: craig.richmondcraig.richmond Date: Aug 16, 2008 12:35
Cannot remember if I have asked this question before but this afternoon the
Central next train boards were showing the destination as "Special" Any
ideas?
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Author: j.p.harrisj.p.harris Date: Aug 16, 2008 14:36
On 16 Aug, 20:35, virgin.net> wrote:> Cannot remember if I have asked this question before but this afternoon the
> Central next train boards were showing the destination as "Special" Any
> ideas?
Is this simply because the line was closed between Holborn and
Liverpool Street and the ultimate destination was unknown? A 'special
service' (other than the timetabled service) would have been in
operation rather than any 'special train'
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Author: dBdB Date: Aug 17, 2008 00:53
> On 16 Aug, 20:35, virgin.net> wrote:>> Cannot remember if I have asked this question before but this afternoon
>> the
>> Central next train boards were showing the destination as "Special" Any
>> ideas?
>
> Is this simply because the line was closed between Holborn and
> Liverpool Street and the ultimate destination was unknown? A 'special
> service' (other than the timetabled service) would have been in
> operation rather than any 'special train'
As a regular user of the Central line, the only times I've seen a train
shown as 'special' is when the train has been taken out of service and is on
its way back to the depot. I've never seen a 'special' train with any
passengers (sorry, customers) on board.
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Aug 17, 2008 01:28
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:53:02 +0100, "dB" hotmail.com> wrote:
>As a regular user of the Central line, the only times I've seen a train
>shown as 'special' is when the train has been taken out of service and is on
>its way back to the depot. I've never seen a 'special' train with any
>passengers (sorry, customers) on board.
For some reason WCML Desiros use "Special" on the ends when "Not in
service" is selected for the side.
Neil
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Author: M J ForbesM J Forbes Date: Aug 17, 2008 08:04
> For some reason WCML Desiros use "Special" on the ends when "Not in
> service" is selected for the side.
Assuming that the PIS on the 350s is the same as SWTs 444/450s, the
driver/guard is able to display whatever they want (I've noticed a few
450s with "Happy Christmas" on the side displays in the past!).
Obviously, the system is pre-programmed with 'regular' displays, but
this can be overridden with a few taps on the keypad.
As (AFAIK) the displays on the cabs cannot scroll, and "Not in
service" won't fit on the matrix, perhaps this is LM's reason for
electing to use "Special", as opposed to "Depot" on the south-of-the-
Thames Desiros.
M
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Aug 17, 2008 08:17
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT), M J Forbes
gmail.com> wrote:
>Assuming that the PIS on the 350s is the same as SWTs 444/450s, the
>driver/guard is able to display whatever they want (I've noticed a few
>450s with "Happy Christmas" on the side displays in the past!).
Correct. I've seen "The Master Cobbler" being displayed on the 1823
to Northampton, and also "Football Special" by someone who was
obviously having a laugh.
>As (AFAIK) the displays on the cabs cannot scroll, and "Not in
>service" won't fit on the matrix, perhaps this is LM's reason for
>electing to use "Special", as opposed to "Depot" on the south-of-the-
>Thames Desiros.
"NOT IN SERVICE" in uppercase with 3-dot wide characters does fit -
I've seen it once. "Depot" does make a lot more sense, though, and
fits better with convention.
The Desiro displays indeed cannot scroll as they are the older flipdot
type rather than pure LED. (They are backlit by LED).
Neil
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Author: nimbusjunknimbusjunk Date: Aug 18, 2008 02:01
On 17 Aug, 08:53, "dB" hotmail.com> wrote:>> On 16 Aug, 20:35, virgin.net> wrote:>>> Cannot remember if I have asked this question before but this afternoon
>>> the
>>> Central next train boards were showing the destination as "Special" Any
>>> ideas?
>
>> Is this simply because the line was closed between Holborn and
>> Liverpool Street and the ultimate destination was unknown? A 'special
>> service' (other than the timetabled service) would have been in
>> operation rather than any 'special train'
>
> As a regular user of the Central line, the only times I've seen a train
> shown as 'special' is when the train has been taken out of service and is on
> its way back to the depot. I've never seen a 'special' train with any
> passengers (sorry, customers) on board. ...
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Author: asdfasdf Date: Aug 19, 2008 20:59
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT), M J Forbes wrote:
>> For some reason WCML Desiros use "Special" on the ends when "Not in
>> service" is selected for the side.
>
>Assuming that the PIS on the 350s is the same as SWTs 444/450s, the
>driver/guard is able to display whatever they want (I've noticed a few
>450s with "Happy Christmas" on the side displays in the past!).
>Obviously, the system is pre-programmed with 'regular' displays, but
>this can be overridden with a few taps on the keypad.
>
>As (AFAIK) the displays on the cabs cannot scroll, and "Not in
>service" won't fit on the matrix, perhaps this is LM's reason for
>electing to use "Special", as opposed to "Depot" on the south-of-the-
>Thames Desiros.
SWT Desiros display "Not in use" on the cabs.
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Aug 20, 2008 03:29
"asdf" wrote in message
news:5d4na4p01jf9ip4bq7f2um7j5j51u3jrrp@4ax.com...> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:04:26 -0700 (PDT), M J Forbes wrote:
>
>>> For some reason WCML Desiros use "Special" on the ends when "Not in
>>> service" is selected for the side.
>>
>>Assuming that the PIS on the 350s is the same as SWTs 444/450s, the
>>driver/guard is able to display whatever they want (I've noticed a few
>>450s with "Happy Christmas" on the side displays in the past!).
>>Obviously, the system is pre-programmed with 'regular' displays, but
>>this can be overridden with a few taps on the keypad.
>>
>>As (AFAIK) the displays on the cabs cannot scroll, and "Not in
>>service" won't fit on the matrix, perhaps this is LM's reason for
>>electing to use "Special", as opposed to "Depot"...
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