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Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Dec 30, 2007 15:00

Evening all,

Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291

I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
do with it!

tom

--
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets
of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a
whole galaxy of multi colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and
also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw
ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all this for the trip,
but once you get locked in a serious drug collection, the tendency is
to push it as far as you can.
-- Hunter S. Thompson, 'Fear and loathing
in Las Vegas'
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Graham Harrison
Date: Dec 30, 2007 20:01

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0712302256310.17179@urchin.earth.li...
> Evening all,
>
> Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528
>
> And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
> slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291
>
> I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
> Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
> do with it!
>
> tom
>
> -- ...
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Dec 31, 2007 03:26

"Graham Harrison" btinternet.obvious.com> wrote in
message news:8JidnTgyus8P9OXanZ2dnUVZ8h-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Tom Anderson" wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0712302256310.17179@urchin.earth.li...
>> Evening all,
>>
>> Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528
>>
>> And at Warren Street, a new, post-ELL, version of the tube map which is
>> slowly appearing at stations (but is not yet, AFAIK, online):
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2149407291
>>
>> I am pleased to note that my complaint about the Overground layout at
>> Willesden Junction has been addressed, although i doubt i had anything to
>> do with it!
>> ...
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Peter Lawrence
Date: Dec 31, 2007 09:50

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:00:24 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:
>Evening all,
>
>Seen at Farringdon, New Johnston and Rail Alphabet together at last:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/twic/2150199528

(OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
name of the National Rail route.

--
Peter Lawrence
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Lew 1
Date: Dec 31, 2007 10:12

> (OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
> name of the National Rail route.

It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it written
on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it. Besides which,
once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink route could mean
trains to any number of destinations rather then the fairly simple route it
refers to at the moment.

Best Wishes,
LEWIS
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jan 1, 2008 12:22

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:
>> (OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
>> name of the National Rail route.
>
> It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
> written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it.
> Besides which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink
> route could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the
> fairly simple route it refers to at the moment.

All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.

Unless the plan is to rebrand (debrand?) things so that the new routes
won't be called Thameslink?

tom

--
Things fall apart - it's scientific
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Jan 1, 2008 12:36

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0801012020290.21918@urchin.earth.li...
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:
>
>>> (OT) A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
>>> name of the National Rail route.
>>
>> It does... but it's far less prominent now. The trains don't have it
>> written on them any more and announcements etc. don't mention it. Besides
>> which, once the Thameslink work is all finished, the thameslink route
>> could mean trains to any number of destinations rather then the fairly
>> simple route it refers to at the moment.
>
> All of which will pass through Farringdon, though. And vice versa, every
> train which passes through Farringdon will be on the Thameslink route.
>
> Unless the plan is to rebrand (debrand...
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jan 1, 2008 12:47

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Paul Scott wrote:
>> "Tom Anderson" wrote in message
>> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0712302256310.17179@urchin.earth.li...
>>
>
> I think it's a step too far to show the future southern extension of the
> ELL in that way though, surely there's a good chance people will give
> the diagram a quick glance and interpret it as the line from NXG to East
> Croydon is also being closed for LO conversion?

When they did much the same thing to extend the Central and Northern lines
after the war, taking over existing routes, they were just drawn as dashed
lines, without any reference to them being extant railway lines:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1946.html

Although interestingly, entirely new bits of routes were shown
differently, as dotted lines. That clever Mr Beck!

tom

--
Things fall apart - it's scientific
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Mr Thant
Date: Jan 1, 2008 13:37

On 31 Dec 2007, 17:50, "Peter Lawrence" ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> (OT)  A waste of money though - surely Thameslink still exists as the
> name of the National Rail  route.

They seem to quite like their stickers. London Overground have been
busy pasting over even the most harmless Rail Alphabet sign with an
identical one in New Johnston, complete with the silly "Temporary
sign" note in the corner. They seem much less bothered about the
trains not exactly matching the picture in the brochure.

U

--
http://londonconnections.blogspot.com/
A blog about transport projects in London
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Re: Signs and portents (well, a map, anyway)         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jan 1, 2008 13:54

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008, Paul Scott wrote:
> "Tom Anderson" wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0801012020290.21918@urchin.earth.li...
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Lew 1 wrote:
>>
>>>> (OT) A waste of money though - surely...
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