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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: 1506
Date: Jul 28, 2008 10:16

On Jul 28, 9:28 am, Charlie Hulme davenportstation.org.uk>
wrote:
> Tony Polson wrote:
>> "It is hoped to emulate the success of the recently revamped St
>> Pancras, whose features, such as Europe's longest champagne bar, have
>> proved a hit with passengers.
>
> Is that champagne bar popular with passengers? Travel
> first class and you get a free glass of champagne anyway.
>
IMHO, articles published in the London "Evening Standard" do not mean
very much. The ES makes "Rail" look like a publication of stature.

Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
into a thru station? One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
trains running thru to the Dartford loop. Meanwhile operation of
Charing Cross would be simplified. There would also be economies of
fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: Peter Masson
Date: Jul 28, 2008 10:30

"1506" yahoo.com> wrote
>
>Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>into a thru station? One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
>trains running thru to the Dartford loop. Meanwhile operation of
>Charing Cross would be simplified. There would also be economies of
>fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.

No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
more from South West Trains.

Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
he was walking on the spur.

Peter
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: MIG
Date: Jul 28, 2008 10:53

On Jul 28, 6:30 pm, "Peter Masson" privacy.net> wrote:
> "1506" yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
>
>>Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>>into a thru station?  One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
>>trains running thru to the Dartford loop.  Meanwhile operation of
>>Charing Cross would be simplified.  There would also be economies of
>>fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.
>
> No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
> more from South West Trains.
>
> Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
> Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
> he was walking on the spur.
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: 1506
Date: Jul 28, 2008 11:26

On Jul 28, 10:30 am, "Peter Masson" privacy.net> wrote:
> "1506" yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
>
>>Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>>into a thru station?  One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
>>trains running thru to the Dartford loop.  Meanwhile operation of
>>Charing Cross would be simplified.  There would also be economies of
>>fleet size and reduction in platform utilization.
>
> No thank you. Southeastern has enough delays of its own without importing
> more from South West Trains.
>
> Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
> Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
> he was walking on the spur.
>
> Peter
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: D7666
Date: Jul 28, 2008 11:27

On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
> into a thru station?

Yeh lets reinstate every curve there ever was in London -

Met line to Liverpool Street main line
City Thameslink to Moorgate direct
Hotel curve and York Way
etc

--
Nick
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: D7666
Date: Jul 28, 2008 11:32

On Jul 28, 6:30 pm, "Peter Masson" privacy.net> wrote:
> Anyway, the spur would probably be haunted by the ghost of South Eastern
> Railway director Captain Warren, who was struck and killed by a train when
> he was walking on the spur.

I prefer the quote from HG Wells ''War Of The Worlds'':

< quote >

Everyone connected with the terminus seemed
ill-tempered.

About five o'clock the gathering crowd in the station was immensely
excited by the opening of the line of communication, which is almost
invariably closed, between the South-Eastern and the South-Western
stations, and the passage of carriage trucks bearing huge guns and
carriages crammed with soldiers. These were the guns that were
brought up from Woolwich and Chatham to cover Kingston. There was
an exchange of pleasantries: "You'll get eaten!" "We're the
beast-tamers!" and so forth. A little while after that a squad of
police came into the station and began to clear the public off the
platforms, and my brother went out into the street again.

< /quote >
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: asdf
Date: Jul 28, 2008 11:58

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
>>>Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>>>into a thru station?  One could see Hampton Court and Kingston Loop
>>>trains running thru to the Dartford loop.  Meanwhile operation...
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: Batman55
Date: Jul 28, 2008 12:04

"D7666" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:335954d2-4cef-4027-8a8a-2678573421d9@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>> into a thru station?
>
> Yeh lets reinstate every curve there ever was in London -
>
> Met line to Liverpool Street main line
> City Thameslink to Moorgate direct
> Hotel curve and York Way
> etc
>
>
> --
> Nick
>
Be nice to have a travolator to the SW station though!
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: D7666
Date: Jul 28, 2008 12:11

On Jul 28, 8:04 pm, "Batman55" <900...@hidebehind.com> wrote:
> Be nice to have a travolator to the SW station though!

Yes thats a good idea.

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Nick
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Re: "Rail bosses reveal radical revamp plan for Waterloo" - London Evening Standard         


Author: 1506
Date: Jul 28, 2008 16:29

On Jul 28, 11:27 am, D7666 hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 6:16 pm, 1506 yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Do we know if Network Rail has considered converting Waterloo back
>> into a thru station?
>
> Yeah let’s reinstate every curve there ever was in London -

One assumes you jest. However:
>
> Met line to Liverpool Street main line

Crossrail will do this better.
> City Thameslink to Moorgate direct

IMHO, this one has merits. Moorgate would be a much better terminus
for the SE trains that will terminate at the new Blackfriars.
> Hotel curve and York Way

New Thameslink connection to the GN does this well.
> etc
>
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