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Author: JonathanJonathan Date: Jul 18, 2008 18:28
Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a bus or train,
with hardly enough room to breathe, because the company decided to cancel
earlier buses or trains without notice, and without making any alternative
arrangements.
Because I believe that this gross-overcrowding is a serious risk to public
health and safety, I've created a petition at
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sardines/ asking for action to be taken to stop
this gross-overcrowding.
Therefore, if anyone else here shares my concerns, please co-sign the
petition, and if possible, please pass the message along to a few friends.
Jonathan
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jul 19, 2008 03:50
On 19 Jul, 02:28, "Jonathan" spam.com> wrote:> Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
> I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a bus or train,
> with hardly enough room to breathe, because the company decided to cancel
> earlier buses or trains without notice, and without making any alternative
> arrangements.
If there was a decent tube system in south london some of the pressure
would be taken off the overground trains. But the amount of overground
lines has always been used as an excuse for not further extending the
tube south of the river rather than thinking the services could
complement each other. The its-difficult-to-tunnel excuse no longer
holds water in the 21st century so I guess the only obstacle now would
be money as it ever was - we have tight fisted victorians to thank for
the piddly mainline loading gauge meaning we can't have double deck
trains , and the frankly farcical loading gauge on the deep level tube
lines.
B2003
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Author: MariaMaria Date: Jul 19, 2008 05:39
"Jonathan" spam.com> wrote in message
news:48814239$0$26077$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...> Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
> I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a bus or train,
> with hardly enough room to breathe, because the company decided to cancel
> earlier buses or trains without notice, and without making any alternative
> arrangements.
>
> Because I believe that this gross-overcrowding is a serious risk to public
> health and safety, I've created a petition at
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sardines/ asking for action to be taken to stop
> this gross-overcrowding.
>
> Therefore, if anyone else here shares my concerns, please co-sign the
> petition, and if possible, please pass the message along to a few friends.
>
> Jonathan
>
> Good idea. I've always thought there should be an active campaign to ...
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Author: Mr ThantMr Thant Date: Jul 19, 2008 05:46
On 19 Jul, 13:39, "Maria" wrote:> Good idea. Â I've always thought there should be an active campaign to
> discourage people who don't have to travel in rush hour from using public
> transport at peak times.
Perhaps they could charge higher fares?
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Jul 19, 2008 06:04
In message
<119c2139-7d5e-4b8c-8632-b6547498ebc6@ 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, at
05:46:58 on Sat, 19 Jul 2008, Mr Thant
googlemail.com> remarked:>>I've always thought there should be an active campaign to
>> discourage people who don't have to travel in rush hour from using public
>> transport at peak times.
>
>Perhaps they could charge higher fares?
Perversely, they charge habitual rush-hour travellers lower fares.
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Roland Perry
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Jul 19, 2008 06:11
> On 19 Jul, 02:28, "Jonathan" spam.com> wrote:>> Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of
>> years I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a
>> bus or train, with hardly enough room to breathe, because the
>> company decided to cancel earlier buses or trains without notice,
>> and without making any alternative arrangements.
>
> If there was a decent tube system in south london some of the pressure
> would be taken off the overground trains. But the amount of overground
> lines has always been used as an excuse for not further extending the
> tube south of the river rather than thinking the services could
> complement each other. The its-difficult-to-tunnel excuse no longer
> holds water in the 21st century...
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Date: Jul 19, 2008 11:54
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:39:14 +0100, "Maria"
wrote this gibberish:
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>"Jonathan" spam.com> wrote in message
>news:48814239$0$26077$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...>> Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
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Author: Colin RosenstielColin Rosenstiel Date: Jul 19, 2008 13:48
> The its-difficult-to-tunnel excuse no longer holds water in the
> 21st century
So we have new geology in the 21st century? What's changed pray?
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Author: Neil WilliamsNeil Williams Date: Jul 20, 2008 08:40
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:04:17 +0100, Roland Perry perry.co.uk>
wrote:
>Perversely, they charge habitual rush-hour travellers lower fares.
Abolishing this suddenly would probably cause economic meltdown in
London and the South East (and by extension the rest of the UK),
though.
While I agree that lots of commuting is not desirable, it needs to be
dealt with the other way, such as a phased-in legal requirement to
allow (or even mandate) home working for employees (such as office
workers, call centre workers etc) where it is feasible with modern-day
technology.
Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.
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Author: tim.....tim..... Date: Jul 20, 2008 08:40
"Maria" wrote in message
news:0YydnSRTT_nsfRzVnZ2dnUVZ8jydnZ2d@bt.com...>
> "Jonathan" spam.com> wrote in message
> news:48814239$0$26077$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...>> Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
>> I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a bus or train,
>> with hardly enough room to breathe, because the company decided to cancel
>> earlier buses or trains without notice, and without making any
>> alternative arrangements.
>>
>> Because I believe that this gross-overcrowding is a serious risk to
>> public health and safety, I've created a petition at
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sardines/ asking for action to be taken to
>> stop this gross-overcrowding.
>>
>> Therefore, if anyone else here shares my concerns, please co-sign the
>> petition, and if possible, please pass the message along to a few
>> friends.
>> ...
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