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Author: MIG
Date: Apr 3, 2008 03:45

While the current insanity prevails at Bank, it would be very helpful
if PAYG was accepted between Lewisham/Greenwich and Cannon Street.

Could the readers on the NR barriers at Cannon Street be programmed
for this or would Cannon Street have to be closed for
six months for the installation of standalone readers, accompanied by
the closure of Blackfriars, Charing Cross, Waterloo and Victoria due
to anticipated passenger flows, making London safer for the people who
have to go there by discouraging people from going there? sarcasm>
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: Mizter T
Date: Apr 3, 2008 11:09

On 3 Apr, 11:45, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> While the current insanity prevails at Bank, it would be very helpful
> if PAYG was accepted between Lewisham/Greenwich and Cannon Street.

This would be helpful anyway, but it's not going to happen because of
what is happening at Bank - it will happen as and when Southeastern
and Southern eventually agree to accept Oyster PAYG.

Is what's happening at Bank that insane? Escalators need to have heavy
maintenance done on them from time to time after all.
>
> Could the readers on the NR barriers at Cannon Street be programmed
> for this or would Cannon Street have to be closed for
> six months for the installation of standalone readers, accompanied by
> the closure of Blackfriars, Charing Cross, Waterloo and Victoria due
> to anticipated passenger flows, making London safer for the people who
> have to go there by discouraging people from going there? > sarcasm>
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: MIG
Date: Apr 3, 2008 14:27

On Apr 3, 7:09 pm, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3 Apr, 11:45, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> While the current insanity prevails at Bank, it would be very helpful
>> if PAYG was accepted between Lewisham/Greenwich and Cannon Street.
>
> This would be helpful anyway, but it's not going to happen because of
> what is happening at Bank - it will happen as and when Southeastern
> and Southern eventually agree to accept Oyster PAYG.

A decision has been made to block the only current PAYG route (DLR)
into Bank, so if decisions can be made to block passageways that are
unaffected by the works, surely decisions can be made to provide an
alternative PAYG route.
>
> Is what's happening at Bank that insane? Escalators need to have heavy
> maintenance done on them from time to time after all.
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: Richard J.
Date: Apr 3, 2008 16:26

MIG wrote:
> On Apr 3, 7:09 pm, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is what's happening at Bank that insane? Escalators need to have
>> heavy maintenance done on them from time to time after all.
>
> Yes. Totally insane. I am referring to the deliberate closure of
> routes with no escalators and the principle of inconveniencing
> passengers unnecessarily in order to discourage them from using a
> station.
>
> TfL's priority should be to provide safe and environmentally-friendly
> transport in London. Instead, their priority seems to be to make one
> tiny patch totally safe with no consideration of the effects on the
> safety and efficacy of the rest of transport in London.

Are we sure that the closed passages are not being used in connection with
the escalator works? It seems to me quite possible that a multiple
escalator replacement/refurbishment project would be completed more quickly
if there was more space available for materials and equipment during the
project.
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: MIG
Date: Apr 4, 2008 01:54

On Apr 4, 12:26 am, "Richard J." blueukder.co.yon> wrote:
> MIG wrote:
>> On Apr 3, 7:09 pm, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is what's happening at Bank that insane? Escalators need to have
>>> heavy maintenance done on them from time to time after all.
>
>> Yes.  Totally insane.  I am referring to the deliberate closure of
>> routes with no escalators and the principle of inconveniencing
>> passengers unnecessarily in order to discourage them from using a
>> station.
>
>> TfL's priority should be to provide safe and environmentally-friendly
>> transport in London.  Instead, their priority seems to be to make one
>> tiny patch totally safe with no consideration of the effects on the
>> safety and efficacy of the rest of transport in London.
>
> Are we sure that the closed passages are not being used in connection with
> the escalator works?  It seems to me quite possible that a multiple
> escalator replacement/refurbishment project would be completed more quickly
> if there was more space available for materials and equipment during the ...
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: asdf
Date: Apr 5, 2008 05:01

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:33 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
>>> While the current insanity prevails at Bank, it would be very helpful
>>> if PAYG was accepted between Lewisham/Greenwich and Cannon Street.
>>
>> This would be helpful anyway, but it's not going to happen because of
>> what is happening at Bank - it will happen as and when Southeastern
>> and Southern eventually agree to accept Oyster PAYG.
>
>A decision has been made to block the only current PAYG route (DLR)
>into Bank, so if decisions can be made to block passageways that are
>unaffected by the works, surely decisions can be made to provide an
>alternative PAYG route.

Just like they could have been made to allow PAYG between London
Bridge and New Cross/New Cross Gate during the ELL closure.
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Re: PAYG South East to Bank         


Author: MIG
Date: Apr 5, 2008 05:25

On Apr 5, 1:01 pm, asdf wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:33 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
>>>> While the current insanity prevails at Bank, it would be very helpful
>>>> if PAYG was accepted between Lewisham/Greenwich and Cannon Street.
>
>>> This would be helpful anyway, but it's not going to happen because of
>>> what is happening at Bank - it will happen as and when Southeastern
>>> and Southern eventually agree to accept Oyster PAYG.
>
>>A decision has been made to block the only current PAYG route (DLR)
>>into Bank, so if decisions can be made to block passageways that are
>>unaffected by the works, surely decisions can be made to provide an
>>alternative PAYG route.
>
> Just like they could have been made to allow PAYG between London
> Bridge and New Cross/New...
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