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Author: dBdB Date: Jul 25, 2008 00:16
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7524754.stm
The Oyster system used on London's transport network has broken down two
weeks after another fault left 40,000 customers with corrupted cards.
The latest problem has affected pay as you go Oystercards on the Tube
network.
Barriers are being kept open at all stations until the problem has been
rectified, Transport for London (TfL) has confirmed.
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jul 25, 2008 01:19
On Jul 25, 8:16 am, "dB" hotmail.com> wrote:
Oh dear, the system hardening against the MiFARE hack just isn't
working is it boys? When that exploit gets published in full in
october you're going to be well and truly screwed.
B2003
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 25, 2008 01:24
thagor2008@ googlemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
>> The Oyster system used on London's transport network has broken down
>> two weeks after another fault left 40,000 customers with corrupted
>> cards.
> Oh dear, the system hardening against the MiFARE hack just isn't working
> is it boys? When that exploit gets published in full in october you're
> going to be well and truly screwed.
You really think there'll be anything in that disclosure that the black-
hats haven't _long_ known?
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jul 25, 2008 01:29
On Jul 25, 9:24 am, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:> thagor2...@ googlemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
> >>> The Oyster system used on London's transport network has broken down
>>> two weeks after another fault left 40,000 customers with corrupted
>>> cards.
>> Oh dear, the system hardening against the MiFARE hack just isn't working
>> is it boys? When that exploit gets published in full in october you're
>> going to be well and truly screwed.
>
> You really think there'll be anything in that disclosure that the black-
> hats haven't _long_ known?
Quite possibly. Black hats arn't super human genuises plus if you read
the details this exploit required access to lab equipment to strip the
chip layers and look at it under (I think) electron microscopes.
Besides which , its only now that the exploit has come out and TfL are
panicking. When/if it was underground (excuse the pun) before , they'd
have been in blissful ignorance.
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 25, 2008 01:35
thagor2008@ googlemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> Besides which , its only now that the exploit has come out and TfL are
> panicking. When/if it was underground (excuse the pun) before , they'd
> have been in blissful ignorance.
Which is precisely why disclosure is good.
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jul 25, 2008 01:54
On Jul 25, 9:35 am, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:> thagor2...@ googlemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
> >> Besides which , its only now that the exploit has come out and TfL are
>> panicking. When/if it was underground (excuse the pun) before , they'd
>> have been in blissful ignorance.
>
> Which is precisely why disclosure is good.
Indeed. Though from what I've read theres probably not all that much
that can be done against this exploit without changing the hardware.
I'll bet a fiver that they'll have to slowly migrate over to the newer
cards using 3DES for Oyster in the coming years.
B2003
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Author: Batman55Batman55 Date: Jul 25, 2008 02:07
> On Jul 25, 9:35 am, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:>> thagor2...@ googlemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>> saying:
>> >>> Besides which , its only now that the exploit has come out and TfL are
>>> panicking. When/if it was underground (excuse the pun) before , they'd
>>> have been in blissful ignorance.
>>
>> Which is precisely why disclosure is good.
>
> Indeed. Though from what I've read theres probably not all that much
> that can be done against this exploit without changing the hardware.
> I'll bet a fiver that they'll have to slowly migrate over to the newer
> cards using 3DES for Oyster in the coming years.
>
> B2003
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Author: googlegoogle Date: Jul 25, 2008 08:33
On Jul 25, 8:16 am, "dB" hotmail.com> wrote:> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7524754.stm
>
> The Oyster system used on London's transport network has broken down two
> weeks after another fault left 40,000 customers with corrupted cards.
>
> The latest problem has affected pay as you go Oystercards on the Tube
> network.
>
> Barriers are being kept open at all stations until the problem has been
> rectified, Transport for London (TfL) has confirmed.
According to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7525894.stm
The problem existed between 6am and 10am.
Interestingly, I travelled on London Midland (Watford Junction to
London Euston) using PAYG during this time. Both the touch in and
touch out appeared to work correctly and the machine at touch out
reported the correct fare.
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Author: MIGMIG Date: Jul 25, 2008 08:47
On 25 Jul, 16:33, "goo...@woodall.me.uk" wrote:
> On Jul 25, 8:16 am, "dB" hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Oyster system used on London's transport network has broken down two
>> weeks after another fault left 40,000 customers with corrupted cards.
>
>> The latest problem has affected pay as you go Oystercards on the Tube
>> network.
>
>> Barriers are being kept open at all stations until the problem has been
>> rectified, Transport for London (TfL) has confirmed.
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Author: Mr ThantMr Thant Date: Jul 25, 2008 09:57
On 25 Jul, 16:47, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:> Today I used Cannon Street NR, where the barriers were working and I
> didn't see crowds of people with travelcards on Oyster waiting to be
> let through. I am on paper at the moment, so I didn't test it with an
> Oyster Travelcard.
The problem was only affecting PAYG, which isn't available at Cannon
Street NR.
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