Is an English over 60's bus pass valid on London buses in zones 1,2
and 3?

I can't find anything relevant on tfl.gov.uk !

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In message 4ax.com>, Mike
nospam.com> writes

Only if it is the new style pass.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/7327.aspx

On May 31, 4:20 pm, Paul Terry musonix.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Another question on the same subject.
My Aunt has a over 60's bus pass issued in Sussex, does it just cover
buses in London or can it be used like the TFL Freedom Pass?

Francis

francis wrote:

On May 31, 5:23 pm, "Richard J." blueukder.co.yon> wrote:

On 31 May, 16:20, Paul Terry musonix.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Though do take note of this (which is copied from the TfL page linked
to below):

"If you live outside London and have been issued with a temporary
National Concessionary bus pass it will be valid until 30th September
2008 only. These passes are on card and you must use it with your
existing concessionary pass at all times."

Those in possession of the valid pass(es) are then able to make use of
any TfL London Bus service regardless of zones within Greater London
and beyond.

On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:20:51 +0100, Paul Terry
musonix.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks, much appreciated!

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On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:20:51 +0100, Paul Terry
musonix.demon.co.uk> wrote:

What this does not seem to cover is whether the pass works as an
Oyster card, so should be touched in, or should just be waved at the
driver. The latter gas been accepeted so far!

On 2 Jun, 20:39, "Peter Lawrence" idnet.com> wrote:

Yes it does, towards the bottom of the page there's this paragraph:


If you live outside London and have been issued with a National
Concessionary bus pass on a smartcard, unfortunately the encoding
system they use is not compatible with Oyster. When being used for
free travel on buses in London, they will need to be visually
inspected by the driver.


In basic technical terms the MiFare smartcard readers used by Oyster
in London aren't yet compatible with the ITSO smartcard standard.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:55:13 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T gmail.com>
wrote:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/7327.aspx says:

"If you live outside London and have been issued with a National
Concessionary bus pass on a smartcard, unfortunately the encoding
system they use is not compatible with Oyster. When being used for
free travel on buses in London, they will need to be visually
inspected by the driver."

Not all of London's bus drivers appear to have been properly trained
in how this works - my mother has been asked to "touch in" on a bus,
luckily the driver wasn't that bothered when she didn't, especially as
there was a PAYG Oyster lurking behind it in the plastic wallet.

Also, I wonder how many "beyond the pale" passes are correctly logged
(and paid for). At least once I've seen the same message on the
ticket machine - when such a feat is even possible - as appears for a
paper travelcard ("TfL pass" or similar). I've heard that the correct
button to press is "Other passes", one that previously didn't do
anything. I wonder if the drivers have been told?