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OT: I am rung by the tides         


Author: John Rowland
Date: Jul 17, 2008 19:11

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sk8z04gzhgvd&style=o&lvl=2&tilt...

The thing which looks a bit like a petrol pump in the middle of the picture
is a frame containing a pair of old bells, one of which bears the legend "I
AM RUNG BY THE TIDES". Beneath the bells are poles attached to sluice gates.
Does the bell sting ring, and how does/did it work? Why was this done at
this rather obscure location?
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: John Rowland
Date: Jul 17, 2008 19:32

John Rowland wrote:
> http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sk8z04gzhgvd&style=o&lvl=2&tilt...
>
> The thing which looks a bit like a petrol pump in the middle of the
> picture is a frame containing a pair of old bells, one of which bears
> the legend "I AM RUNG BY THE TIDES". Beneath the bells are poles
> attached to sluice gates. Does the bell sting ring, and how does/did
> it work? Why was this done at this rather obscure location?

Ah, I've found out it was a 1990's art projest. How disappointing.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%%22i+am+rung+by+the+tides%%22&btnG=Google...=
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jul 22, 2008 07:05

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, John Rowland wrote:
> John Rowland wrote:
>> http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sk8z04gzhgvd&style=o&lvl=2&tilt...
>>
>> The thing which looks a bit like a petrol pump in the middle of the
>> picture is a frame containing a pair of old bells, one of which bears
>> the legend "I AM RUNG BY THE TIDES". Beneath the bells are poles
>> attached to sluice gates. Does the bell sting ring, and how does/did it
>> work? Why was this done at this rather obscure location?
>
> Ah, I've found out it was a 1990's art projest. How disappointing.
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%%22i+am+rung+by+the+tides%%22&btnG=Google...=

I assume you're really pointing to this:

http://3r2n.cfa.cmu.edu/groundworks/background/statements/Octobe%%2019%%20PLATFORM%%20final%%20positi...

Which describes it a bit near the beginning. I assume you didn't read the
rest of that document, John, since you don't seem to have been killed by
an explosion of pure rage, as would surely have happened if you had!

I was thinking the other day that it would be nice to exhume some of the
lost rivers. Completely impractical, of course, but nice.
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Jeremy Parker
Date: Jul 22, 2008 09:22

"Tom Anderson" wrote

[snip]
> I was thinking the other day that it would be nice to exhume some
> of the lost rivers. Completely impractical, of course, but nice.
>
> More plausibly, how about making the surface parts of the New River
> more accessible? AFAIK, most of it's fenced off at the moment.

I think that both are actual projects. I seem to recall reading
recently that Boris wants to write exhuming rivers into the London
Plan, when the Plan gets revised over the next couple of years to
de-Ken-ise it. I seem to recall that the Wandle is beginning to
re-emerge.

The New River already has been made more accessible, I think,
although I don't explore where it goes often enough to know details.
I'm not sure where the river stops being functional now that the Ring
Main is in business

Jeremy Parker
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Author: John B
Date: Jul 22, 2008 12:02

On 22 Jul, 17:22, "Jeremy Parker" compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> The New River already has been made more accessible, I think,
> although I don't explore where it goes often enough to know details.
> I'm not sure where the river stops being functional now that the Ring
> Main is in business

Was there on Saturday, to my mild surprise. It goes from approximately
Highbury to approximately Canonbury, without any evidence of any
actual flowing - certainly, I'd be amazed if that stretch were
actually used for water delivery. But it's a nice (albeit rather
short) walk.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Ian Jelf
Date: Jul 22, 2008 16:44

In message news.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy Parker
compuserve.com> writes
>
>"Tom Anderson" wrote
>
>[snip]
>
>> I was thinking the other day that it would be nice to exhume some
>> of the lost rivers. Completely impractical, of course, but nice.
>>
>> More plausibly, how about making the surface parts of the New River
>> more accessible? AFAIK, most of it's fenced off at the moment.
>
>I think that both are actual projects. I seem to recall reading
>recently that Boris wants to write exhuming rivers into the London
>Plan, when the Plan gets revised over the next couple of years to
>de-Ken-ise it. I seem to recall that the Wandle is beginning to
>re-emerge.
>
>The New River already has been made more accessible, I think, ...
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Tom Anderson
Date: Jul 23, 2008 05:21

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Ian Jelf wrote:
> In message news.demon.co.uk>, Jeremy Parker
> compuserve.com> writes
>>
>> "Tom Anderson" wrote
>>
>>> I was thinking the other day that it would be nice to exhume some
>>> of the lost rivers. Completely impractical, of course, but nice.

[snip excellent truths about the New River]
> I'm not sure that the plans for opening out rivers are fully thought
> out. They were often culverted for a reason. Yes, often that was due to
> pollution which wouldn't be an issue in the same way today; but often
> it was to reduce flooding, too. I'm not sure that the good folks of
> Westbourne Grove fancy the Westbourne lapping its way through the
> Whiteley's building. (Okay an exaggeration perhaps but you get the
> idea.)
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: John Rowland
Date: Jul 23, 2008 05:32

Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, John Rowland wrote:
>
>> John Rowland wrote:
>>> http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=sk8z04gzhgvd&style=o&lvl=2&tilt...
>>>
>>> The thing which looks a bit like a petrol pump in the middle of the
>>> picture is a frame containing a pair of old bells, one of which
>>> bears the legend "I AM RUNG BY THE TIDES". Beneath the bells are
>>> poles attached to sluice gates. Does the bell sting ring,

I must have been thinking about bell peppers... I meant to say "Does the
bell still ring"
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Paul Terry
Date: Jul 23, 2008 11:56

In message , Tom
Anderson writes
>There's a building somewhere in the City where a stub of some ancient
>monastery or something, exposed when the building was constructed, runs
>across the lobby, and it creates a fascinating space with a powerful
>link to our city's history. It's a wonderful bit of architecture. Doing
>that with a river - even better.

I always enjoy seeing the Tyburn flowing through the basement of Grays,
just south of Oxford Street - right in the middle of touristland but few
people seem to realise that it is there:

http://www.graysantiques.com/tyburn_river.php
--
Paul Terry
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Re: I am rung by the tides         


Author: Eric
Date: Jul 23, 2008 13:32

On 2008-07-22, Tom Anderson wrote:
>
> I was thinking the other day that it would be nice to exhume some of the
> lost rivers. Completely impractical, of course, but nice.
>
> More plausibly, how about making the surface parts of the New River more
> accessible? AFAIK, most of it's fenced off at the moment.
>
> tom
>

Actually most of the New River is accessible. There used to be a Thames
Water leaflet covering it all, but it seems to have vanished from the
web. I walked from Enfield to New River Head in three stages late last
year/early this year with no problems except some muddy and overgrown
bits, which I managed to get through anyway (with one arm in a sling!).
Others have done the same and provided photos:

http://www.bertuchi.co.uk/newriver02.php

http://luphen.org.uk/walks/new_river/4-turkey_brook_palmers_green.htm

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