It suddenly struck me yesterday when I was up in London, why do TFL
still use the old British Rail logo? Whenever you get to a station
with an overground rail connection, there are signs saying "Trains"
with an arrow and the old logo. In fact I'd also like to what they
think the things that run on the Underground are if not "trains"?
On the southbound Bakerloo platfrom at Waterloo, there's still a sign
that says "British Rail" in blue illuminated glass. Its on both sides
of the sign, so I wonder of this is a deliberate.
Now, If you look at the new "Overground" stickers going up on the
information signs at station, they also have the old BR logo printed
on them.
Why does this still happen?

Neill

At the time of privatisation is was decided that the symbol would be
retained to indicate the railway network and that is still the case
today.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:57:39 -0800 (PST), Neill
hotmail.com> wrote:

Because it remains as the logo used to represent mainline rail
throughout the country, and has by no means been retired.

Neil

On 28 Dec, 20:57, Neill hotmail.com> wrote:

You'd better tell the National Rail people to stop using it too:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

Old Street still has a British Rail (Eastern Region) sign lurking.

U

Neill wrote:

What makes you think that it's only "up in London" that the National
Rail symbol is used? What part of the country do you come from? Don't
you see it there?

"Neill" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Because the 'London Overground' is still part of the current national rail
network, whose sign it is, not the 'tube' despite what you might think if
you listen only to Ken Livingstone?

Paul

It's *not* an old logo. Every railway station in the country shows that
logo - its accepted as the standard design in the UK meaning "Railway",
regardless of who is running the trains. National Rail still use it, maps
still use it... why would you change it? (Incidentally, what is the name of
this logo, I remember someone telling me once but I have forgotten!)

In non enthusiast speak, they are tubes - even the sub-surface stock. So,
the rail symbol and the word trains quite easily conveys National Trains.

On Dec 29, 12:36 am, "Lew 1" REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

On 29 Dec, 00:49, chunky munky hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

90%%. And it is a TOC within the National Rail system. The thing it
isn't is a franchise.

That's not quite right - the North London Railway is a National Rail
service, but the East London Railway is not, probably due to the
project's heritage as a tube line. Stations that are only served by
the East London Railway (which also happen to be the ones owned by TfL
rather than Network Rail) won't have double arrows, but the rest will.

U

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:55:45 -0000, "Paul Scott"
btinternet.com> wrote:

Or if you look at Tube line diagrams.

All TOCs are equal, but some TOCs are more equal than others.