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Author: Andy
Date: Aug 20, 2008 01:14

On Aug 20, 8:43 am, Paul Weaver isorox.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20 Aug, 08:08, John B johnband.org> wrote:
>
>> On 20 Aug, 06:20, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams)
>> wrote:
>
>>>>I suppose the real question is, why don't they run a Willesden Jn (LL
>>>>bay platform) to Stratford service, in addition to the Euston service,
>>>>instead of completely arbitrarily withdrawing the service to Euston?
>
>>> Because they want to experiment to see what happens, to dictate their
>>> future plans?
>
>> ...which makes sense. It's a shame they haven't arranged for London
>> Midland to stop at Queens Park during the trial period, though.
>
> London Midland is already severly overcrowded from Euston to Harrow.
> Adding Queens Park (which is only a 45 minute walk from Euston anyway)
> would mean leaving more people behind -- people who pay a hell of a
> lot more for their ticket than a Z12 travelcard.
>

Peak London Midland services are not severely overcrowded from Euston
to Harrow (maybe with the exception of the 4 car 19.04 departure in
the evening). Sure there are usually a few people standing, but the
doorways and aisles are not packed at all. Only this Monday, the 18.04
departure stopped additionally at Queens Park due to the Bakerloo line
(and DC line) having delays due to a signal failure at Willesden
Junction and it didn't get uncomfortably full after leaving Queens
Park. I very much doubt that anyone would get left behind at Euston.

A stop by London Midland wouldn't be just for Queens Park, but would
be for passengers connecting to stations between Queens Park and
Harrow. Of course, an alternative would be to have reopened Primrose
Hill, as this is only about a mile away ;)
> I suppose making Queens park and Harrow pick-up-only Northbound (in
> the peaks) would free up enough space on the services.

How would that help, when at least 100 people get on (morning) or off
(evening) each trains at Harrow each day and there is no capacity for
them on the DC lines. As I said before, the Harrow stoppers are not
overcrowded. The more overcrowded services seem to be those that are
first stop Watford and then most stops to Milton Keynes.
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