On Sep 17, 4:34Â pm, rosenst...@
cix.co.uk (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 7:20Â am, asdf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:17:34 -0700 (PDT), MIG wrote:
>>>>>> As I understand it, it's shortage of rolling stock which needs
>>>>>> the Euston trains to go to Stratford. With fewer trains on a
>>>>>> Sunday there are some available to go to Euston.
>
>>>>> I don't think it is lack of rolling stock, as there are sufficient
>>>>> units spare (for starters, all three class 508s are available) to
>>>>> run at least a Euston - Willesden Jcn shuttle. However, there
>>>>> would be a probably be a lack of paths between Queens Park and
>>>>> Willesden Junction due to the increased Bakerloo service at
>>>>> least during the peaks.-
>
>>>>I was just gonna say, presumably the 508s can't be used for any
>>>>services other than into Euston, and with so many lines closed,
> there
>>>>can't be a shortage.
>
>>> Can't Watford Junction to Stratford be done entirely on DC? (There's
> a
>>> dual-electrified stretch where the 313s normally switch to AC, but
>>> presumably DC can still be used.)
>
>>> (Not that there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough
>>> stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's
>>> enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn
>>> going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.)
>
>> The reason why the trains switch to AC is because trains using the DC
>> stretch along there would have to go at half power.
>
> Isn't that just a general feature of the 313s? As built for the GN they
> ran in series only on DC because the Northern City Line section is
> limited to 30 MPH anyway. It doesn't affect the 508s and I thought the
> 313s transferred to the NLL/Euston Watford Service were modified.
>
Yes, I think this is the case. The Northern City trains are limited to
30 mph in the tunnels anyway. I don't think that there is any
difference in the power available under DC or AC. If there was any DC
speed limiters on the original units, they have certainly been removed
from the NLL units.