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NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Sep 15, 2008 08:34

Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
the out of use bridges.

This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
there is no longer a centre turnback.

Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/NLRTAO_TfL-let-110808-annexa.pdf

Paul S
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: MIG
Date: Sep 15, 2008 08:52

On 15 Sep, 16:34, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote:
> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
> the out of use bridges.
>
> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>
> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>
> http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/NLRTAO_TfL-let-110808-annexa.pdf
>
> Paul S

On a related issue, I noticed on Sunday that trains were running from
Euston to Queens Park.

Is this normal, during the blockade, or was it because of the rest of
the LO not running at all that day?
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Sep 15, 2008 09:03

"MIG" doreenbird.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b4dab7c2-d8f4-4fcd-a985-943a1b4b0fd9@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 15 Sep, 16:34, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL
>> improvements,
>> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state
>> of
>> the out of use bridges.
>>
>> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak,
>> as
>> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>>
>> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>>
>> http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/NLRTAO_TfL-let-110808-annexa.pdf
>>
>> Paul S
>
> On a related issue, I noticed on Sunday that trains were running from ...
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Andy
Date: Sep 15, 2008 09:13

On Sep 15, 4:52 pm, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
> On 15 Sep, 16:34, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
>> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
>> the out of use bridges.
>
>> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
>> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>
>> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>
>
>> Paul S
>
> On a related issue, I noticed on Sunday that trains were running from
> Euston to Queens Park.
>
> Is this normal, during the blockade, or was it because of the rest of ...
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: MIG
Date: Sep 15, 2008 09:30

On 15 Sep, 17:13, Andy gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 4:52 pm, MIG doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 15 Sep, 16:34, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
>>> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
>>> the out of use bridges.
>
>>> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
>>> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>
>>> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>
> ...
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Neil Williams
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:04

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT), MIG
doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>Ah yes, I hadn't spotted that they were running to Euston on Sundays.
>I can see how stoppng LM services at Queens Park would be affected by
>paths, but I wonder how Sundays are so different for LO/Bakerloo.

Why are they running to EUS on Sunday?

Neil

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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: 1506
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:04

On Sep 15, 8:34 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
> the out of use bridges.
>
> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>
> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>
> http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/NLRTAO_TfL-let-110808-annexa.pdf
>
Pitiful.
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Paul Scott
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:13

"Neil Williams" pacersplace.org.uk> wrote in message
news:48ceb19f.309212498@news.individual.net...
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT), MIG
> doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Ah yes, I hadn't spotted that they were running to Euston on Sundays.
>>I can see how stoppng LM services at Queens Park would be affected by
>>paths, but I wonder how Sundays are so different for LO/Bakerloo.
>
> Why are they running to EUS on Sunday?

That's exactly what 'MIG' originally asked a few posts ago. It's timetabled,
but no one has said for sure why it can be on Sundays, but not on weekdays.
It must be that there are only so many paths from Camden Junction to Queens
Park, and the Stratford services use them all. As there are less Stratfords
on Sun, and possibly less freight?, presumably they can add back a Euston or
two...

Paul
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: Jamie Thompson
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:38

As an aside, does anyone know why they seem to be keeping a unit in
the platforms at Euston during the week? It seems such a waste of a
platform and the only possible justification #I can think of is
keeping it there in case things go tits up and they need to be able to
run a service from Euston to Watford...
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Re: NLL Camden Road work package reduced         


Author: darkprince66
Date: Sep 15, 2008 12:51

On Sep 15, 4:34 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Don't think anyone has mentioned the reduced scope of the NLL improvements,
> basically the 4 tracking will not go as far as Camden Rd due to the state of
> the out of use bridges.
>
> This reduces the Stratford - Camden Rd service frequency in the off peak, as
> there is no longer a centre turnback.
>
> Details on the ORR site here, including track diagrams:
>
> http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pdf/NLRTAO_TfL-let-110808-annexa.pdf
>
> Paul S

Just a thought, couldn't someone repair the bridges, or failing that,
replace them?

I don't suppose that motorway bridges would be left unused if they
needed some work, witness the billions being squandered on the M1
widening in Beds/Herts, and the consequent bridge work there.
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