On 4 Sep, 20:17, MIG
doreenbird.co.uk> wrote:> On Sep 4, 7:52Â pm, "Paul Scott"
btinternet.com>
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>>> MIG wrote:
>>> On Sep 4, 12:08 pm, martin
gmail.com> wrote:>>>> It mentions a new 0930-1600 off-peak period. I'm guessing that off-
>>>> peak picks up again after 1900, but there's no mention of this.
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>>>> Another question is whether your off-peak day Travelcard will be
>>>> valid after 1600 - or will there be two markedly different off-peak
>>>> periods, depending on how you're paying?
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>> Depends if 'off peak' paper travelcards are affected at all doesn't it? I
>> suspect this is a PAYG feature only, otherwise there would have to be an
>> 'off peak minimum cash fare' but they say it is frozen at £4.00 - though
>> you'd have to say the press release isn't explicit enough...
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>>>> While I'd imagine tourists arriving at Heathrow in the middle of the
>>>> day will be happy about being able to save £1.60, I suspect everyone
>>>> else will be totally baffled.
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>> This is what PAYG does already - does it baffle people now that higher fares
>> are charged between 0700 and 1900?
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>>> It also doesn't say if it's the start time of the journey or the end
>>> time of the journey or both that determine the fare charged.
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>> I'm sure it's been established before that on PAYG it is the start time that
>> defines the fare charged.
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> That's what I'd put my money on, but it doesn't say. Â For readers of
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Does an evening peak on the underground now suggest that in time TOCs
can apply a similar peak level of fares on national rail services
inside the zones in the afternoon. We could then see an afternoon
restriction on tubes and trains for off-peak travelcards. This would
then remove the anomalies of off-peak tickets being valid in the
evening peak to zone 6 stations but not beyond from Liverpool Street,
Kings Cross etc.
However, it doesn't simplify matters at all. If an afternoon peak
applied to the off-peak one day travelcard, it would also have to
apply to passengers travelling in from outside zone 6 (as people
arriving in London between 4pm and 7pm wouldn't be able to travel
beyond their terminal station). This would all but kill off any
chance of anyone having a evening out in London if they are not
already there.
Jonathan
