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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Jun 2, 2008 09:25
I see in this week's Railway Herald, a picture of the 'abandoned ELL
terminus platform at New Cross Gate', supposedly to be redundant once the
ELL trains run down to West Croydon (&Crystal Palace).
I thought down trains were going to carry on using the original route but as
a through platform, and the junction was going to be south of the station?
Paul S
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Jun 2, 2008 09:32
On 2 Jun, 17:25, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote:> I see in this week's Railway Herald, a picture of the 'abandoned ELL
> terminus platform at New Cross Gate', supposedly to be redundant once the
> ELL trains run down to West Croydon (&Crystal Palace).
>
> I thought down trains were going to carry on using the original route but as
> a through platform, and the junction was going to be south of the station?
>
The Railway Herald is wrong and you are right - you can deduce this
from the ground without even needing to look at any plans. A new
junction has already gone in on the down slow mainline south of NXG,
this can be seen from a train obviously but also the top deck of any
bus that traverses New Cross (the road) - the existing platform will
thus be reused.
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Author: tshanazttshanazt Date: Jun 2, 2008 13:17
On 2 Jun, 17:32, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:> The Railway Herald is wrong and you are right - you can deduce this
> from the ground without even needing to look at any plans. A new
> junction has already gone in on the down slow mainline south of NXG,
> this can be seen from a train obviously but also the top deck of any
> bus that traverses New Cross (the road) - the existing platform will
> thus be reused.
Will the tracks linking the ELL and the District (St.Mary's curve) be
removed?
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gordon
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Jun 2, 2008 13:34
On 2 Jun, 21:17, "tshan...@ aol.com" aol.com> wrote:
> On 2 Jun, 17:32, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The Railway Herald is wrong and you are right - you can deduce this
>> from the ground without even needing to look at any plans. A new
>> junction has already gone in on the down slow mainline south of NXG,
>> this can be seen from a train obviously but also the top deck of any
>> bus that traverses New Cross (the road) - the existing platform will
>> thus be reused.
>
> Will the tracks linking the ELL and the District (St.Mary's curve) be
> removed?
>
I believe it's gone already.
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Author: Peter MassonPeter Masson Date: Jun 3, 2008 01:20
"Charles Ellson" ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p52944potvtbmih8snsl1tb68siv7bnr2m@4ax.com...> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>On 2 Jun, 21:17, "tshan...@ aol.com" aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Will the tracks linking the ELL and the District (St.Mary's curve) be
>>> removed?
>>
>>I believe it's gone already.
>>
> That's the present but will it remain so when the ELL re-arrangement
> is completed ?
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Author: jdfijdfi Date: Jun 3, 2008 01:21
On Jun 3, 12:57 am, Charles Ellson ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote:> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:34:39 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>>On 2 Jun, 21:17, "tshan...@ aol.com" aol.com> wrote:>
>>> On 2 Jun, 17:32, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:>
>>>> The Railway Herald is wrong and you are right - you can deduce this
>>>> from the ground without even needing to look at any plans. A new
>>>> junction has already gone in on the down slow mainline south of NXG,
>>>> this can be seen from a train obviously but also the top deck of any
>>>> bus that traverses New Cross (the road) - the existing platform will
>>>> thus be reused.
>
>>> Will the tracks linking the ELL and the District (St.Mary's curve) be ...
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Author: Mr ThantMr Thant Date: Jun 3, 2008 01:55
> The plan certainly last year was to put it back in (on the basis that
> signalling etc was going to be to LUL standards and so to make it easy
> to get LUL departmental vehicles etc onto the line) however I heard a
> rumour that that plan was now no longer to happen.
I heard that LUL didn't want the hassle of maintaining the points,
which requires a daily inspection. I still haven't seen confirmation
of what kind of signaling the central section will have.
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Jun 3, 2008 03:56
> On Jun 3, 12:57 am, Charles Ellson ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote:>> That's the present but will it remain so when the ELL re-arrangement
>> is completed ?
>
> The plan certainly last year was to put it back in (on the basis that
> signalling etc was going to be to LUL standards and so to make it easy
> to get LUL departmental vehicles etc onto the line) however I heard a
> rumour that that plan was now no longer to happen.
It seems an amazing suggestion to use signalling to LU standards on a line
that is presently being 'rebuilt to NR standards'. Are you confusing
ownership with day to day practicalities?
Paul S
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Author: thagor2008thagor2008 Date: Jun 4, 2008 02:15
On Jun 2, 9:34 pm, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:> On 2 Jun, 21:17, "tshan...@ aol.com" aol.com> wrote:
>>> On 2 Jun, 17:32, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:>
>>> The Railway Herald is wrong and you are right - you can deduce this
>>> from the ground without even needing to look at any plans. A new
>>> junction has already gone in on the down slow mainline south of NXG,
>>> this can be seen from a train obviously but also the top deck of any
>>> bus that traverses New Cross (the road) - the existing platform will
>>> thus be reused.
>
>> Will the tracks linking the ELL and the District (St.Mary's curve) be
>> removed?
>
> I believe it's gone already.
Has the whole thing been lifted all the way back to the district line
or just the few yards before it joins the ELL?
B2003
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