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Author: unrealpolitikunrealpolitik Date: Nov 21, 2007 02:53
Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
the Victoria line.
And if Ken is serious about bringing more and more lines into the LO
branding, the situation's going to get worse.
So... would it make more sense to give individual routes names? Or
even numbers, continental style? If so, what could they be?
Jonn
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Nov 21, 2007 03:03
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> Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
> London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
> Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
> different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
> the Victoria line.
>
> And if Ken is serious about bringing more and more lines into the LO
> branding, the situation's going to get worse.
>
> So... would it make more sense to give individual routes names? Or
> even numbers, continental style? If so, what could they be?
>
You mean like North, West, & East London Lines, which everyone already
knows, The DC lines - which may not be so well known. Ken has previously
referred to them as being collectively the 'North London Railway'.
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Author: unrealpolitikunrealpolitik Date: Nov 21, 2007 03:23
On Nov 21, 11:03 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:>> Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
>> London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
>> Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
>> different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
>> the Victoria line.
>
>> And if Ken is serious about bringing more and more lines into the LO
>> branding, the situation's going to get worse.
>
>> So... would it make more sense to give individual routes names? Or
>> even numbers, continental style? If so, what could they be?
> ...
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Nov 21, 2007 03:42
> On Nov 21, 11:03 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
> wrote:>>> Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
>>> London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
>>> Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
>>> different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
>>> the Victoria line.
>>
>>> And if Ken is serious about bringing more and more lines into the LO
>>> branding, the situation's going to get worse.
>>
>>> So... would it make more sense to give individual routes names? Or ...
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Author: unrealpolitikunrealpolitik Date: Nov 21, 2007 03:52
On Nov 21, 11:42 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:>> On Nov 21, 11:03 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
>> wrote:>>> gmail.com> wrote in message>
>
>>>> Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
>>>> London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
>>>> Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
>>>> different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
>>>> the Victoria line.
> ...
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Nov 21, 2007 04:06
> On Nov 21, 11:42 am, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
> wrote:>> Just because it was straightforward to divide 'Silverlink' into two
>> discreet
>> parts, given that the operations were totally separate, I reckon Southern
>> is
>> on a different scale of problems entirely...
>>
>
> I'm not sure it is, actually. Isn't there a fairly clean split between
> the metro services and the south coast ones? It does mean that a
> couple of Greater London stations would fall outside TfL control -
> Coulsdon South, for example - but it otherwise looks comparatively
> straightforward. Something like C2C, which doesn't have a metro
> service to speak of, looks far more vexing.
>
> This is of course entirely theoretical at this point.
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Author: unrealpolitikunrealpolitik Date: Nov 21, 2007 04:29
On Nov 21, 12:06 pm, "Paul Scott" btinternet.com>
wrote:> gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sure - but it doesn't make any sense for Ken to state publicly that he's
> going to put in a bid for the entire Southern Franchise next year either...
>
Hmmm.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article2903879.ece
What the article says includes...
"Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, is preparing to submit a bid
next year to take over most of Southern, one of the biggest train
franchises, from 2009.
...
"Speaking to The Times, Mr Livingstone said: "I am optimistic that TfL
will end up controlling all the franchises in Greater London. We want
to get the same standards we are introducing on London Overground on
all services and I am confident of getting a sympathetic hearing from
the Government.""
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Author: Mr ThantMr Thant Date: Nov 21, 2007 04:49
On 21 Nov, 11:52, unrealpoli...@ gmail.com wrote: > but it otherwise looks comparatively
> straightforward. Something like C2C, which doesn't have a metro
> service to speak of, looks far more vexing.
The c2c metro service is the District Line, surely?
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Author: unrealpolitikunrealpolitik Date: Nov 21, 2007 05:00
On Nov 21, 12:49 pm, Mr Thant
googlemail.com> wrote:> On 21 Nov, 11:52, unrealpoli...@ gmail.com wrote:
> >> but it otherwise looks comparatively
>> straightforward. Something like C2C, which doesn't have a metro
>> service to speak of, looks far more vexing.
>
> The c2c metro service is the District Line, surely?
>
Well, yes.
Although I think they do also run some trains Fenchurch Street -
Barking - Rainham - Grays, which TfL would presumably have their eye
on.
Jonn
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Author: Tim Roll-PickeringTim Roll-Pickering Date: Nov 21, 2007 09:35
> Line maps and announcements are beginning to mention interchange with
> London Overground services. This is already a little confusing -
> Euston, Highbury and Blackhorse Road all interchange with entirely
> different lines, though you wouldn't know it from the linear map of
> the Victoria line.
Any different from lines that show interchange with the "Northern Line"? Or
with "National Rail"?
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