Mizter T wrote:
> Matthew wrote:
>
>>> In London. Presuambly the names of other cards will also be used in
>>> their own areas (Yorcard in south Yorkshire, etc). While the
>>> compatibility issues does seem to get portrayed as evil TOCs conspiring
>>> against cuddly Oysters out of pure malice, the desire of DfT and the
>>> TOCs to have a national set of open standards rather than lots of
>>> individual incompatible proprietary systems does strike me a good idea.
>>> An awful lot of UK transport technology and planning seems to be a case
>>> of "I wouldn't start from here", and getting a standardised system might
>>> avoid another set of problems in the future.
>>>
>>>
>> Oystercards are now included in the ITSO spec, at page 88 of
>>
http://itso.org.uk/content/Specification/ITSO_TS_1000-10_V2_1_1_2006-10.pdf
>>
>> According to today's London Lite, Chiltern are to accept PAYG from June
>> at the rest of its Greater London stations (Northolt Park to Wembley
>> Stadium) .
>>
>> They are also to retail cards outside London.
>>
>> "We are also happy to announce that we are working very hard with
>> Transport for London on being the first train company to sell Oyster
>> Smartcards outside London. We will be launching this to our passengers
>> in 2007"
>>
>> C2C are also reported to be enabling PAYG acceptance at Dagenham Dock
>> and Rainham.
>
> Interest stuff Matthew, thanks for that!
>
> I can't quite decipher from the ITSO specification exactly how Oyster
> and the ITSO smartcard standard will work together, but it appears that
> a combination smartcard that utilises both Oyster and the ITSO standard
> will be possible, which is logical enough.
>
> There's a myriad of implementation issues with regards to how Oyster
> would work with a national ITSO standard travel smartcard, but given
> that any such national smartcard is a long way off that's not something
> to worry about too much.
Something can handle PAYG for a priv dog travelling first class from St
Ives to Kyle of Lochalsh via sleeper, LU and Denton (with Plusbus) is
probably a long way off, but other more regional smart cards are out
there. A card which could be used on both Tramlink and Supertram or the
Underground and the Subway isn't unimaginable.
What is important is ensuring that future
> Oyster equipment (Oyster scanners on gates and in ticket offices etc)
> will be able to handle ITSO-standard smartcards as well - and it
> appears that this will indeed be the case.
>
> Also very interesting stuff regarding Chiltern. The bit about them
> accepting Oyster PAYG for journeys within Greater London - i.e. within
> the zones - is just an (overdue) logical development. It's a pretty
> stupid situation from the passengers point of view where Oyster PAYG
> can't be used at some intermediate stations.
>
> The situation on the DC lines (Euston - Watford) at Kilburn High Street
> and South Hampstead will be resolved when TfL take over from Silverlink
> in November, which just leaves the 'one' lines from Liverpool Street up
> to / Seven Sisters/ Tottenham Hale/ Walthamstow Central to be sorted
> out. C2C accepting Oyster PAYG at Rainham and Degenham Dock is just a
> logical development in that they are of course the only two stations
> C2C has in the zones that don't currently accept PAYG.
Did I see somewhere that c2c want to have Oyster (/ITSO) valid for their
whole network? About 10 years ago I went to a talk by the then-MD, who
mentioned plans to gate the whole lot and introduce whizzo high-tech new
tickets.
> However the stuff about Chiltern offering Oyster smartcards outside of
> London is very interesting - so much so that I'm going to start a new
> thread about it!
>
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
