> I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
> London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
> electric motor. Are these out and about yet?

> Boltar (boltar2...@yahoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>

>> I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
>> London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine plus
>> electric motor. Are these out and about yet?

>
> February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/3680.aspx
>
> And double-deckers since November 2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm

> February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/3680.aspx

>From the article:

> On 6 Jul, 09:56, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:

>> February 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/3680.aspx

>

>>From the article:

>
> "The battery pack is kept at optimum power by a 1.9 litre diesel Euro
> IV engine. In other words, an engine which would normally be found in
> a family car keeps the battery"
>
> 1.9 sounds a bit too small. I'm sure in start and stop traffic it
> might be ok but ultimately the energy all comes from that engine.
> Seems to me the bus would be hopeless for any long or even middle
> distance runs especially if any hills are involved, since once the
> battery has been used up its relying on the engine only and a 10 ton
> (probably...

> "The battery pack is kept at optimum power by a 1.9 litre diesel Euro
> IV engine. In other words, an engine which would normally be found in
> a family car keeps the battery"
>
> 1.9 sounds a bit too small. I'm sure in start and stop traffic it
> might be ok but ultimately the energy all comes from that engine.
> Seems to me the bus would be hopeless for any long or even middle
> distance runs especially if any hills are involved, since once the
> battery has been used up its relying on the engine only and a 10 ton
> (probably more) bus won't be going anywhere fast with an engine that
> size.

>>> I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
>>> London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine
>>> plus electric motor. Are these out and about yet?

>> February
>> 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/3680.aspx
>>
>> And double-deckers since November
>> 2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm

> Anyone know what routes?

>> The hybrids will operate on route 360, run by London Central, from
>> tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2006.

>> When it returns to London it will operate on the route between Wood
>> Green and London Bridge.

> Boltar (boltar2...@yahoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>

>>>> I saw on TV not long ago something about Hybrid buses being used in
>>>> London - not those hopeless fuel cell things but a diesel engine
>>>> plus electric motor. Are these out and about yet?

>>> February
>>> 2006.http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/3680.aspx

>

>>> And double-deckers since November
>>> 2006.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6102806.stm

>> Anyone know what routes?

>
>
>
> From the first link...
>

>>> The hybrids will operate on route 360, run by London Central, from
>>> tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2006. ...

> Don't forget that the engine is basically just being used as a generator,
> therefore can run at optimum revs for the specific output - there's no
> requirement for any kind of useful rev range or torque curve.

>> Don't forget that the engine is basically just being used as a
>> generator, therefore can run at optimum revs for the specific output
>> - there's no requirement for any kind of useful rev range or torque
>> curve.

> True , and I suppose that will mitigate it somewhat. However
> ultimately that engine will produce less power than a normal bus
> engine so when relying on the engine alone its going to be slower
> compared to the normal engine running at optimum gearing.