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Author: BobBob Date: Jul 21, 2007 01:05
No real surprise that Thameslink would be on the HLOS agenda - given
the urgent need to rebuild London Bridge. It will also fill in the
national investment gap before Crossrail starts up after th'Olympix.
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LONDON, July 20 (Reuters) - Britain will announce a 30-year plan for
the country's overloaded rail system next week, giving the go-ahead
for a 3.5 billion pounds ($7.2 billion) upgrade to the Thameslink...
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Author: jonmorrisjonmorris Date: Jul 21, 2007 02:35
On 21 Jul, 09:05, Bob virgin.net> wrote:> No real surprise that Thameslink would be on the HLOS agenda - given
> the urgent need to rebuild London Bridge. It will also fill in the
> national investment gap before Crossrail starts up after th'Olympix.
Where was the mention of those 1,000 new carriages?!
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Jul 21, 2007 02:45
"Bob" virgin.net> wrote in message
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No real surprise that Thameslink would be on the HLOS agenda - given
the urgent need to rebuild London Bridge. It will also fill in the
national investment gap before Crossrail starts up after th'Olympix.
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"Thameslink is going to be approved," an industry source told Reuters
on Friday. "That means tripling capacity from eight trains an hour to
24 trains an hour on the core route between Brighton and Bedford
through London."
Is it just me or do the Thameslink announcements always completely miss the
point? Nearly every statement made seems to include 'between Brighton and
Bedford' whereas the improvements cover a much wider area than the current
line...
Paul
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Author: tim.....tim..... Date: Jul 21, 2007 03:33
"Paul Scott" btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob" virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:1185005123.278372.140640@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> No real surprise that Thameslink would be on the HLOS agenda - given
> the urgent need to rebuild London Bridge. It will also fill in the
> national investment gap before Crossrail starts up after th'Olympix.
>
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> "Thameslink is going to be approved,"
so that will make it almost 20 years late then
tim
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Jul 21, 2007 04:42
In message <5ge5nbF3e2b6rU1@ mid.individual.net>, at 11:33:29 on Sat, 21
Jul 2007, tim..... yahoo.co.uk> remarked:>> "Thameslink is going to be approved,"
>
>so that will make it almost 20 years late then
It's been "approved" several times over. All it needs now is funding. If
the OP means that "funding has been allocated", then that's a useful
step, but quite disjoint from the approval process.
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Roland Perry
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Author: David ButteryDavid Buttery Date: Jul 21, 2007 05:45
> Another industry source said the 30-year rail plan would put emphasis
> on developing the country's light rail network, including trams
I'm sure the people of Leeds will be delighted to hear this...
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Bewdley, Worcs. ~90m asl.
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Author: asdfasdf Date: Jul 21, 2007 06:47
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:42:59 +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
>>> "Thameslink is going to be approved,"
>>
>>so that will make it almost 20 years late then
>
>It's been "approved" several times over. All it needs now is funding. If
>the OP means that "funding has been allocated", then that's a useful
>step, but quite disjoint from the approval process.
I think we need to wait for the SOFA for that.
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Author: allan tracyallan tracy Date: Jul 21, 2007 08:31
> would also approve the planned 500 million pounds reconstruction of
> Birmingham's New Street station.
Local press reports suggest that, at a high level, questions are still
being asked of this project.
I know New Labour needs little excuse to not spend on transport but
Ruth Kelly is questioning value for money and quite rightly so on this
one.
500M and there's to be no real capacity improvement what's the point
of that just another building that will be (hopefully) nice to look
at, but that will offer zero real transport improvement - waste, waste
waste!
> Another industry source said the 30-year rail plan would put emphasis
> on developing the country's light rail network, including trams, which
> are cheaper to run on low volume routes and easier to maintain.
When New Labour proposes a 30-year plan on transport it means only one
thing - please don't bother us on this for another thirty years.
Labour's priorities have, from day one, been to bleed us dry with
taxes for education and health or more to the cynical point those
Labour voters that work in education and health.
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Date: Jul 21, 2007 09:22
On 21 Jul, 16:31, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:>> would also approve the planned 500 million pounds reconstruction of
>> Birmingham's New Street station.
>
> Local press reports suggest that, at a high level, questions are still
> being asked of this project.
>
> I know New Labour needs little excuse to not spend on transport but
> Ruth Kelly is questioning value for money and quite rightly so on this
> one.
>
> 500M and there's to be no real capacity improvement what's the point
> of that just another building that will be (hopefully) nice to look
> at, but that will offer zero real transport improvement - waste, waste
> waste!
>
>> Another industry source said the 30-year rail plan would put emphasis
>> on developing the country's light rail network, including trams, which
>> are cheaper to run on low volume routes and easier to maintain.
> ...
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Author: allan tracyallan tracy Date: Jul 21, 2007 09:49
>
> Are you expecting a 'land of milk and honey' for transport investment
> if the Tories are ever returned to power?
>
> Get real. Their track record (no pun intended) from 1979 to 1997 in
> transport investment was just as abysmal as Nu Labour's has been since
> 1997.
>
The facts speak for themselves there's a huge list of stuff that got
kicked off by the Tories.
ECML electrification, WCML upgrade, Channel Tunnel and rail link,
Docklands, Thameslink, Jubilee Line and Metros in Liverpool,
Newcastle, Sheffield, Manchester, Croydon, Birmingham and Nottingham.
I could go on.....
New Labour has given the go ahead, so far in over ten years, to
precisely nothing.
Were the Tory years milk and honey well from where we are standing now
very definitely yes.
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