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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Mar 27, 2008 03:15
In message
<53413215-aa46-41dd-9e91-8b3c95d1e1bb@ i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, at
18:59:34 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Mizter T gmail.com> remarked:
"The TTS station is underground, and passengers travelling from
Terminal 5B descend to the station via the longest open design
escalator in Europe. It will take 90 seconds to travel on the
escalator which has a vertical rise of 21.75 metres.
Does that beat the escalator at Angel Tube station? What's an "open
design" escalator, anyway; and where is the presumably longer "not open
design" escalator somewhere else in Europe?
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Roland Perry
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Author: Paul ScottPaul Scott Date: Mar 27, 2008 03:39
Roland Perry wrote:
> In message
> <53413215-aa46-41dd-9e91-8b3c95d1e1bb@ i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> at 18:59:34 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Mizter T gmail.com>
> remarked:>
> "The TTS station is underground, and passengers travelling from
> Terminal 5B descend to the station via the longest open design
> escalator in Europe. It will take 90 seconds to travel on the
> escalator which has a vertical rise of 21.75 metres.
>
> Does that beat the escalator at Angel Tube station?
No - Angel rises 27.4 m in 60m length - less than the Tyne Foot Tunnel at
25.9 in 60m too. I guess open design just means the underside is visible
(through glass perhaps).
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Author: Mizter TMizter T Date: Mar 27, 2008 11:04
On 27 Mar, 01:59, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:
> And one thing can be certain - there will be much said and indeed much
> to say about it. Already BAA have put the plan to fingerprint all
> passengers flying from T5 on hold because of concerns over compliance
> with data protection laws, whilst anti-third runway protesters plan on
> holding a 'flash mob protest' at T5 at 11am today.
>
> (snip)
When I wrote the above post I almost included a comment along the
lines of 'wonder how long it'll take for it to go SNAFU', but then
decided that T5 should be given the benefit of the doubt. After all,
I'd read about extensive testing of the baggage handling facilities
that had been going on for months before opening, and the T5
information pack does state that whilst the new system is state of the
art, it does not use any untested technologies because of the
increased risk for foul-ups.
However things have not gone to plan today at T5 - the baggage
handling system is causing grief - some highlights....
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Author: hounslow3hounslow3 Date: Mar 27, 2008 14:04
"Roland Perry" perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:yRtNDrClO36HFAwo@perry.co.uk...> In message
> <53413215-aa46-41dd-9e91-8b3c95d1e1bb@ i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, at
> 18:59:34 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Mizter T gmail.com> remarked:>
> "The TTS station is underground, and passengers travelling from
> Terminal 5B descend to the station via the longest open design
> escalator in Europe. It will take 90 seconds to travel on the
> escalator which has a vertical rise of 21.75 metres.
>
> Does that beat the escalator at Angel Tube station? What's an "open
> design" escalator, anyway; and where is...
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Mar 27, 2008 14:46
In message fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, at
21:04:39 on Thu, 27 Mar 2008, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk remarked:>>
>> "The TTS station is underground, and passengers travelling from
>> Terminal 5B descend to the station via the longest open design
>> escalator in Europe. It will take 90 seconds to travel on the
>> escalator which has a vertical rise of 21.75 metres.
>>
>> Does that beat the escalator at Angel Tube station? What's an "open
>> design" escalator, anyway; and where is the presumably longer "not open
>> design" escalator somewhere else in Europe?
>
>Do you mean Western Europe...
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Author: j.p.harrisj.p.harris Date: Mar 27, 2008 17:32
On 27 Mar, 01:59, Mizter T gmail.com> wrote:> And one thing can be certain - there will be much said and indeed much
> to say about it. Already BAA have put the plan to fingerprint all
> passengers flying from T5 on hold because of concerns over compliance
> with data protection laws, whilst anti-third runway protesters plan on
> holding a 'flash mob protest' at T5 at 11am today.
>
> Main BBC News online story:
> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7314816.stm>
>
> BBC News - BA pioneer to land first T5 plane
> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7313093.stm>
>
> BBC News - Heathrow fingerprint plan on hold
> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7315415.stm>
>
> BAA has produced a fairly comprehensive and reasonably informative
> Terminal 5 information pack, which can be read or downloaded via this
> link (PDF):
> ...
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Author: BoltarBoltar Date: Mar 28, 2008 04:25
On Mar 27, 9:46 pm, Roland Perry perry.co.uk> wrote:> Moscow metro's longest escalator is 126 m (Park Pobedy), apparently
> [wikipedia]. More than twice the Angel. A different source says the
> Ukraine has the longest escalator at 87m.
Theres a couple of stations on the Kiev metro (Dnipra, Arsenelna) that
are seriously deep because they're in the side of a cliff with 2 sets
of escalators to go down, both probably longer than Angel though thats
a guess on my part just based on what I saw. I've been told they were
designed as nuclear bunkers. They're certainly very impressive to look
at.
B2003
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Author: martinmartin Date: Mar 29, 2008 09:48
On Mar 27, 10:15 am, Roland Perry perry.co.uk> wrote:> In message
> <53413215-aa46-41dd-9e91-8b3c95d1e...@ i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, at
> 18:59:34 on Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Mizter T gmail.com> remarked:
>>
>>The 'Vital Statistics' pages do contain some useful hard facts
>
> "The TTS station is underground, and passengers travelling from
> Terminal 5B descend to the station via the longest open design
> escalator in Europe. It will take 90 seconds to travel on the
> escalator which has a vertical rise of 21.75 metres.
>
> Does that beat the escalator at Angel Tube station? What's an "open
> design" escalator, anyway; and where is the presumably longer "not open
> design"...
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Author: Roland PerryRoland Perry Date: Mar 29, 2008 10:24
In message
<1958424a-607d-4aa8-bbc9-45471e369713@ d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, at
09:48:34 on Sat, 29 Mar 2008, martin gmail.com>
remarked:>>What's an "open design" escalator, anyway; and where is the
>>presumably longer "not open design" escalator somewhere else in Europe?
>
>I presume they mean it's not in a closed shaft, like Angel's is - this
>one is in a very large atrium, with open space above and below.
>
>There's a photo at http://flickr.com/photos/22819720@N02/2307578958/
There seems to be a lot of "going up and down" mentioned with respect to
T5. I understand they don't have the space to make it flat like
Stansted, but couldn't they have kept it more on one floor (one each for
arrivals and departures), like Gatwick North?
--
Roland Perry
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